Hands on hatching and help

Yep my Hova is consistently lower every time. In my house, ambient humidity is usually 45-50% on average so we're kind of low to begin with. When I am first heating up the bators before adding eggs, the Hova is usually 35% then goes up to low 40's when I add the eggs until after about 7-10 days it will drop into the low 30's then I add a sponge. I incubate Marans a lot so I run lower humidity with them, otherwise the air cells are too small at lockdown.
Well we are pretty close then! My husband is from WV
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He lived in the Mannington area back in the day when he was in high school lol.

Can't wait to see your babies! Any activity in the bator this morning?
Aww what a cutie!!
That's amazing all the shipped silkie eggs are developing!! The others sound very promising too!
I've had mixed results with shipped eggs. Some hatches I had several left in the bator that looked viable at lockdown but never pipped. Others I had excellent hatch rates that you would never know they shipped 1000 miles. It appears to me that some eggs are just tougher than others. They withstand shipping stress better and are stronger chicks at hatch. There are so many variables affecting eggs: Age, health and nutrition of breeder birds, how eggs are packaged, how they are handled during transit, temperatures, incubation methods. They all play a big part. Any one or combination of those things go wrong and it can negatively affect your hatch.

Yes it can be very normal to see no activity on day 20. Sometimes they don't do much on day 21 either then you look in the incubator and you start seeing pips :) its nerve wracking for sure!!

I think on the responsibility and helping issue there are 3 camps of people: the helpers who say I set these eggs so I will do my best to give each hatchling a chance. I personally cannot stand by and watch any animal struggle or suffer. Before staying home with my kids I was a Vet Tech for many years so I can't imagine not helping lol.
Camp 2 are your people who just don't know what to do or how to do it. They've either been scared by Camp 3 to not help or haven't educated themselves yet.
Camp 3 are people who are strictly hands-off. The motto is only the strong survive. They believe weak chicks shouldn't be in the flock so you shouldn't help if they don't hatch. They don't splint spraddle legs or fret over the incubator.

So yes, what you're feeling is normal
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I was a nervous wreck my first hatch but it does get better! I still have nose prints on the incubator lol but the more you hatch, the more confidence you'll have.

Ha! You made me laugh with the nose prints thing. I think I probably have a million too! So we are at day 21.5 here and a lot has gone on since last night. 2 of the shipped BLRWyandottes have hatched!!! WOOOOHOOOO! And they are hilarious. Thinking about calling them "Willy" and "Nilly". I've had a really sad thing happen though. The first little one to pip, pipped at the wrong end. I had such a terrible hatch last time, that I didn't want to open the bator because the other two had also pipped and were working pretty furiously. The upside down one is no longer doing anything and has been still since 3 am. So I am Totally second guessing myself. Should I have gone in and assisted the upside down pipper and risked a no hatch for the other two? Argh. The last hatch when I opened the incubator everything turned into one disaster. So . . . that is 3/10 of the shipped eggs that have pipped. 2/10 made it! Since early this morning I have had 3 more pips from the shipped eggs, but seems to be no progress since then. The two chicks that did hatch seem to have that yellow concretey stuff on them. They are only partly fluffy. Not wet, just like something is on them that won't let their down fluff.

Help Please. Any advice appreciated! I have 3 hygrometers in and they are averaging around 69 right now. It had gone up to about 75 after both chicks hatched, but now seems to have settled back down.

Should I really try to boost humidity right now to help the pippers? Or am I just being impatient and it may take quite a while for the other 3 pips to start zipping? The membranes from the two hatched chicks in the shells is really looking hard and crusty yellowish. Does that mean that all of the membranes on the ones that have pipped have turned hard now since it's taking a while and they can't get out anymore?

BTW< I am hatching in a forced air styro bator.
 
Ah, thanks Friday!  That's the picture I was going by and four of the 8 look more like that day 18, but the other four look to be right on track.  That's the chart thingy I have hung up by the incubator  because I was having so much trouble with the air cells.  Good to know I can raise that humidity a bit.

By the way, I was told you were to the go-to expert on shipped eggs and altitude.  Don't know if you saw my response but we really aren't that high here in the Big Horn Basin...just under 4000 ft so that's probably a non-issue.  I won some eggs (again!  I need to quit entering BYC contests and start buying lottery tickets!) and those were shipped yesterday, they are already in Casper at the moment and on route to destination, which means here tomorrow.  They are coming from Colorado so maybe I don't have much to worry about with these!!

Thanks again.  Gonna go up the humidity a bit.

So glad they are all still kicking!!

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I tried reading the whole thread, but gave up... thought I'd pop in and say Hi! :)


Hi Ravyn!!
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Didn't know you had this thread, lol... feel free to tag me as well for duck help if needed too...

I did!! You must have missed it. Someone was having issues with calls. :)

lol... it's just been irritating me lately since the first thing someone usually says is too high of humidity, but I run low humidity and still get it too sometimes... I think there's more than one reason and egg doesn't lose enough moisture... ;)

Yes, this exact thing happened to me! I ran that batch low, 25% and someone said my humidity must have been to high throughout incubation.

so, I hope someone's around.   


I had to take the shell off one little one cause the membrane was too dry and it couldn't zip... and was drying out in there... the shell came off quite easily and no blood or anything but now the chick seems stuck in this little ball.   will that eventually sort itself out?  I know it's cause he couldn't stretch and use his neck muscles but I didn't know what else to do.   


 

Is the membrane still around the chick or is it totally free?

Hey! So I got a hen sitting on 12 eggs. She did this last year, only sitting on three, but only one hatched. I went out and saw an egg in the nest with a little hole in it, so I assume the chick pecked the hole, then died. I really don't want it to happen again (the more chicks the better) but how can you prevent it? I read something about not turning the eggs after they start hatching.... Anyway, any advice is helpful. I've read the "Chickens for dummies" book like, a hundred times and it's a big help. 

Is she still on the nest? How do you know the chick was dead?

:hugs You can't be sick. Not allowed!! Hope you feel better!! Was wondering where you were!  Your fertility was awesome on the ones you sent me!!! Only one showed no signs at all of developing and that could hae been shipping for all we know!!

Thank you! Feeling like garbage!! Hope I wake up feeling better. Looks like fertility shot back up then! Good to know. How are you doing?

Just had duckling number 3 hatch at 56 hours after pip!!!  It had a big bunch of goo attached to its stomach but no yellow embryo; that goo has already detached itself and it's tummy looks closed up.  It isn't as strong as the last lil duck but she seems fine!  I'll give her some sav-a-chick once she dries just to make sure.  This is the one that I had helped out last night at 2 in the morning and found the blood vein inside.  So relieved it made it.  3 down, one to go.   Just pulled the last one out and tapped the shell and it is still kicking.  It has been pipped between 24 and 36 hours now so I may have to help it out in the morning if it hasn't already hatched. 

Pics coming soon.  Baby number 2 is in the brooder playing tag with Archie.  This one looks to be a blue duckie so looks like Sghetti is this one's dad!

Great job on this hatch!
 
The new eggs arrived today. A quick look at air cells today didn't show me much but I'll check the tonight when it's darker. From what I can see I didn't have any really horrible ones, but I'll know more later. I got the biggest kick out of the box....









 
Stressed here!
Okay I I started lock down Monday (ish) thinking today was the hatch date. I was off by 1 day so Friday night is the true 28th day.
My 1st egg quit on.me 2 weeks in. This 2nd egg developed, I peeked last night & saw a little flutter by the air sack& quickly put egg back in, temperature didn't drop much at all.
I'm having a really bad personal day , and am very anxious for this egg to hatch. So I was misting just now before bed & decided to have 1 last peek. Either it is too full in the shell, but I didn't see any movement.

I hope.I'm over reacting, the air sack looks good. Slight yellow line next to air sack then pink then all dark (baby blob area).
Help me to relax. :( nervous here. Thanks
 
Heh... that wouldn't work with most Call ducks... with their short bills, assisting can be a necessity...
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Thank you... these are all Calls... the one on the far right looks to be a magpie Call... only survivor of a crushed box of shipped eggs...

Edited cuz I forgot my right from my left...
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Ha! You made me laugh with the nose prints thing. I think I probably have a million too! So we are at day 21.5 here and a lot has gone on since last night. 2 of the shipped BLRWyandottes have hatched!!! WOOOOHOOOO! And they are hilarious. Thinking about calling them "Willy" and "Nilly". I've had a really sad thing happen though. The first little one to pip, pipped at the wrong end. I had such a terrible hatch last time, that I didn't want to open the bator because the other two had also pipped and were working pretty furiously. The upside down one is no longer doing anything and has been still since 3 am. So I am Totally second guessing myself. Should I have gone in and assisted the upside down pipper and risked a no hatch for the other two? Argh. The last hatch when I opened the incubator everything turned into one disaster. So . . . that is 3/10 of the shipped eggs that have pipped. 2/10 made it! Since early this morning I have had 3 more pips from the shipped eggs, but seems to be no progress since then. The two chicks that did hatch seem to have that yellow concretey stuff on them. They are only partly fluffy. Not wet, just like something is on them that won't let their down fluff.

Help Please. Any advice appreciated! I have 3 hygrometers in and they are averaging around 69 right now. It had gone up to about 75 after both chicks hatched, but now seems to have settled back down.

Should I really try to boost humidity right now to help the pippers? Or am I just being impatient and it may take quite a while for the other 3 pips to start zipping? The membranes from the two hatched chicks in the shells is really looking hard and crusty yellowish. Does that mean that all of the membranes on the ones that have pipped have turned hard now since it's taking a while and they can't get out anymore?

BTW< I am hatching in a forced air styro bator.
The membranes in the hatched eggs? Could be drying out after hatch and the fan blowing on them. 69 isn't bad. Chances are the pipped ones are ok unless the membrane around the pip are looking yellowish/brown and leathery. If they hit 18-24 hours and still no progress, then I would probably check them.

So glad they are all still kicking!!
Hi Ravyn!!
I did!! You must have missed it. Someone was having issues with calls.
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Yes, this exact thing happened to me! I ran that batch low, 25% and someone said my humidity must have been to high throughout incubation.
Is the membrane still around the chick or is it totally free?
Is she still on the nest? How do you know the chick was dead?
Thank you! Feeling like garbage!! Hope I wake up feeling better. Looks like fertility shot back up then! Good to know. How are you doing?
Great job on this hatch!
14 little be boppers out of 18 eggs....I'd say doing good! lol

Stressed here!
Okay I I started lock down Monday (ish) thinking today was the hatch date. I was off by 1 day so Friday night is the true 28th day.
My 1st egg quit on.me 2 weeks in. This 2nd egg developed, I peeked last night & saw a little flutter by the air sack& quickly put egg back in, temperature didn't drop much at all.
I'm having a really bad personal day , and am very anxious for this egg to hatch. So I was misting just now before bed & decided to have 1 last peek. Either it is too full in the shell, but I didn't see any movement.

I hope.I'm over reacting, the air sack looks good. Slight yellow line next to air sack then pink then all dark (baby blob area).
Help me to relax.
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nervous here. Thanks
It's very possible he's resting getting ready for his internal pipping. Let's hope so!!!
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So glad they are all still kicking!! Hi Ravyn!! I did!! You must have missed it. Someone was having issues with calls. :) Yes, this exact thing happened to me! I ran that batch low, 25% and someone said my humidity must have been to high throughout incubation. Is the membrane still around the chick or is it totally free? Is she still on the nest? How do you know the chick was dead? Thank you! Feeling like garbage!! Hope I wake up feeling better. Looks like fertility shot back up then! Good to know. How are you doing? Great job on this hatch!
My notifs are screwy... I get some, don't get others... or I get them for someone else! :gig
The new eggs arrived today. A quick look at air cells today didn't show me much but I'll check the tonight when it's darker. From what I can see I didn't have any really horrible ones, but I'll know more later. I got the biggest kick out of the box....
:gig Hope it helped with the shipping!
 
Heh... that wouldn't work with most Call ducks... with their short bills, assisting can be a necessity...
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Thank you... these are all Calls... the one on the far right looks to be a magpie Call... only survivor of a crushed box of shipped eggs...

Lol, I just looked up call ducks and they are hilarious. They look so cute and funny with their short lil beaks. May have to try hatching a few some day but I had better get a few more hatches under my belt before trying them. They look tougher to hatch, are they?
 
Yes, this exact thing happened to me! I ran that batch low, 25% and someone said my humidity must have been to high throughout incubation.
Great job on this hatch!

I had little air sacs on mine too but I had been running my humidity between 40 & 45%, and sometimes it dropped to 35 before I noticed and could put more in. Somehow though, my air sacs looked 4 or 5 day behind on day 23.

Thanks, I couldn't have done it without everyone's help, especially you and Amy


The new eggs arrived today. A quick look at air cells today didn't show me much but I'll check the tonight when it's darker. From what I can see I didn't have any really horrible ones, but I'll know more later. I got the biggest kick out of the box....










Lol, hilarious.
 

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