Hands on hatching and help

Discussion in 'Incubating & Hatching Eggs' started by AmyLynn2374, Feb 11, 2016.

  1. AmyLynn2374

    AmyLynn2374 Humidity Queen

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    As long as you have your hudmidity up you are fine. I always roll mine back over if they've been knocked around and pipped eggs land upside down. I also remove my hatchers and egg shells and if I feel I must, assist. All during hatch. They key is to have your humidity up and make sure it recovers quickly when you are done. Now, if you mark your air cells at lockdown, this will give you an idea of where the chick "should" pip and you have that side of the egg facing up. Then when they pip you can see them- well until one hatches and rolls it over...lol

    I hope you find lots of pippers and progress!! Good luck.
     
  2. WVduckchick

    WVduckchick For The Birds! Premium Member

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    I've been known to take vacation days, or work half-days on hatch days [​IMG]


    Amy, I did not realize until this morning that you started this thread! [​IMG]

    I guess I just jumped in when Eve tagged me, but I finally went back and read the whole thing. I agree this was an excellent idea! Kudos to you and Ruby!
     
  3. samandemsmommy

    samandemsmommy Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If my staff was not short today already, I would head home LOL..
     
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    samandemsmommy Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ok, humidity came right back up within minutes and was holding on at 70% when I left for work :) I am so nervous for them...this whole hatching thing turns people into lunatics....or is it just me? LOL
     
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  5. AmyLynn2374

    AmyLynn2374 Humidity Queen

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    LMAO!! Who else is going to push the buttons of the "hands on hatchers" lmao... [​IMG]
    We had talked about it repeatedly over the time of my absence and when I came back and watched a certain "expert" litterally "yell" at someone for candling during lockdown and telling them that they would recieve no help because they were opening the bator, I thought it was time to have a place that the hands on hatchers could get help too w/o being scolded or yelled at because they want to experience the whole hatch or attempt to help a chick when others wouldn't. And just to discuss hatching w/o fear of the naysayers judgemental attitudes.

    It's all of us....lol
     
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  6. RubyNala97

    RubyNala97 Overrun With Chickens

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    I'm sorry. But at least the chick went naturally. I can imagine it would be really hard to work with a chick and then have to put it down anyway.

    Wow! I am so surprised that as many hatched as they did. Are these local or shipped eggs? I've had a few power outages and they are no fun when there's eggs or chicks involved! And I know that panic you feel to keep the eggs warm. I would give the pips around 24 hours before starting to assist. If your humidity is good, you can always take a peek sooner. Keep us posted.

    Yup, that's how it is for me too. With this hatch that is going on now, I noticed that the ones that were internally pipped the longest, took the shortest time from external pip to zip. What a cutie!

    Yes, me too. Like I said in my last comment I think length of time of internal pip makes a difference too.
     
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  7. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    Why do so many people feel so strongly about not opening the incubator the last few days?

    -Kathy
     
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  8. WVduckchick

    WVduckchick For The Birds! Premium Member

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    I'll take a couple stabs at that:

    1 - Humidity does need to stay up. The best way to keep humidity up, is to leave the bator closed.

    2 - When other problems happen, opening the bator is the easiest thing to blame it on, whether its the real cause, a contributing cause, or has nothing to do with it.
     
  9. AmyLynn2374

    AmyLynn2374 Humidity Queen

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    I strongly believe #2 is the biggest factor. Because we have to have something to blame the bad things on. It's easier to say, "oh, you opened the bator at hatchdown" than admit we're not sure what happened or that the chick was just too weak to begin with.

    I also believe that people call "shrink wrapped" and generally they are not shrinkwrapped at all. You don't get "shrinkwrapped" from a couple minutes of air or a drop in the humidity. It takes time for the entire membrane to dry out and start shrinking to the point it truely shrink wraps a chick. I had two silkies in a hatch that shrink wrapped last year. No doubt. I have pics that I am more than willing to share to show shrink wrapping. They lost way too much moisture after lockdown. I believe it was egg quality. :-( I think having the membrane dry out around the pip hole and "glueing" itself to the chick making it unable to progress is a much higher probability.

    The first time I opened a pip to enlarge it and saw the membrane around my chick, I nearly freaked out. I thought it had shrinkwrapped. I did not realize how "fitting" the inner membrane is around the chick. In reality, it was perfectly normally, but having heard "shrink wrap...shrink wrap shrink wrap" from people on here, I was just expecting it to happen, and scared that it would happen and I misread what is natural for a problem. The inner membrane actually encases the chick, it's just not so tight that the chick is unable to move and I think a lot of newbies think it's being shrinkwrapped when it is not.
     
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  10. casportpony

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    I would love to see pictures of your shrink wrapped chick.

    -Kathy
     

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