I like to wait 24 hours, then I *might* pip externally for them, then another 24 hours before I think about assisting. Hopefully the others here will chime in.Well I'm sure my duckling is trying to worry me as soon as I write on here it does the thing I was worried about!!! Just checked for life and I have a internal pipso do I wait 24 hours for the external and then help out or just leave it?![]()