Hands on hatching and help

[Junibutt]

oh my goodness! I hope you contacted them about the fan issue. That's horrible!

i had a chick that i suspect a mouse chewed on part of its wing, outside under a hen. I used Neorsporin, and the "wound" dried up. the end of the wing eventually fell off and healed fine. Never bothered the chick. So yes you can use Neosporin or other such ointment.

To put a young one down, i lay the chick under a folded paper towel on a piece of wood, hold a butcher knife over its neck at a joint, and hit the knife with a hammer or block of wood. i don't trust my aim to chop. So if the knife is already in the right spot, i can hit it hard and make sure its a quick ending. unfortunately finding a way you are comfortable with is a necessary evil when we hatch.

Hope the rest of your hatch goes better.

I plan on contacting Brinsea on Monday. They should have some sort of protective shield.

Surpisingly the chicks is doing great and since the wound was drying up, I put it back with others. Lets hope there is no permanent damage.

If you don't think you can't cull that way I was giving great advice on here when I had to cull. Basically you get a sealed tub or jar and then get a small cup put a few spoonfuls of baking soda in and a few spoonfuls of vinegar until it starts to froth up. Quickly pop the chick in there and seal tight. The froth gives off gases which will make the chick unconscious in a matter of seconds and then it will pass away. I put a towel over it as I didn't want to watch it die but I found that better for myself. Hope this helps

Do not cull like this. It's not your fault you were told this so don't think I'm annoyed at you or anything, I just want to clear this up.

This is a really horrible way to cull. Doing it like this causes the chick to suffocate to death via carbon dioxide poisoning.

The main driving force that makes animals want to take a breath of air is carbon dioxide buildup. So when you really want to take a breath it's because your body senses you have built up carbon dioxide.

So the chick's body will be telling it that it's suffocating and needs to breathe, and it will gasp for breath trying to lower that buildup, which it will not be able to. It's a horrible way to die.

If you want to cull like this, there is a method that replaces the baking soda and vinegar with Ether, which you can buy in the form if starter fluid. Using that will just slowly put the chick to sleep. It will nod off and die peacefully, having no idea that it's dying. So use ether if you want to cull this way, not baking soda and vinegar.

I had two get hurt on my lg fan. My BR still has a slice in her eye "brow". She's 2. Almost scalped her. I thought she'd lose vision in that eye, but she didn't. I used neosporin on it until it healed.


Could, nothing is impossible. Chances aren't great, but if you seal the crack with say cooled but melted wax, you can try. Many won't chance it because if it has gotten or gets bacteria in it, it can turn into an egg bomb.

Thanks everyone for their advice on culling. I gave the chick with deformed leg/foot to a chicken friend who has experience in culling. She uses kitchen shears and swears its quick and least painful.

 

[Junibutt]

Here are my incubation results:

Out of the 36 that went past Day 14, 34 have hatched. I am going to wait another day for the remaining 2 before tossing them.

I made the mistake of giving one of the broodies a pipped egg. She promptly started devouring it so had to bring it back in. Needless to say that she is no longer on her nest. I dunked her in a water bucket and sent her straight to the roosting area with no access to a nest. That should set her straight.

Will now need to test the 2nd broody with the chicks. Hopefully she will take them or else I have to raise the chicks.

Out of the 34 that hatched, 24 are in their new homes already. Here is what I kept:

2 choc girls split to mottled
1 black boy split to choc and mottled
1 blue mottled
1 black mottled
1 unspecified choc
3 BBS Jubilees (possibly 4)

Here is a pic of 4 chicks possibly all Jubilees. I only had 3 Jubilee eggs in this incubator. Remaining all were choc mottled project eggs. So either there was a mislabeled egg or one of these chicks is not a Jubilee. Any takers?



Also, can you believe that of the 33 chocolate mottled eggs I started with, 30 went to lock-down but not one, repeat not one was choc mottled. So I am back to square one. Maybe its a sign to drop this project. Will see!

 

[newchickmama91]

Do not cull like this. It's not your fault you were told this so don't think I'm annoyed at you or anything, I just want to clear this up.

This is a really horrible way to cull. Doing it like this causes the chick to suffocate to death via carbon dioxide poisoning.

The main driving force that makes animals want to take a breath of air is carbon dioxide buildup. So when you really want to take a breath it's because your body senses you have built up carbon dioxide.

So the chick's body will be telling it that it's suffocating and needs to breathe, and it will gasp for breath trying to lower that buildup, which it will not be able to. It's a horrible way to die.

If you want to cull like this, there is a method that replaces the baking soda and vinegar with Ether, which you can buy in the form if starter fluid. Using that will just slowly put the chick to sleep. It will nod off and die peacefully, having no idea that it's dying. So use ether if you want to cull this way, not baking soda and vinegar.

Oh god that's awful! Thanks for letting me know I won't be doing that again

 

[WVduckchick]

Wow, I've never seen one do that after a few days, unless its spraddled or slipped tendon, which yours doesn't look like. The legs just look way too skinny!
I wonder if you put it in a small plastic bowl, pad around it with some paper towels or something, and give it some room, but make it want to jump out, i wonder if it would try. anything to work up its leg strength? I don't know, I'm sorry.

and you've probably seen this site, but in case you haven't, check this out. https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/poultry-podiatry

Edit - after watching again, i think it's right leg has a slipped tendon.

I plan on contacting Brinsea on Monday. They should have some sort of protective shield.

Surpisingly the chicks is doing great and since the wound was drying up, I put it back with others. Lets hope there is no permanent damage.







Thanks everyone for their advice on culling. I gave the chick with deformed leg/foot to a chicken friend who has experience in culling. She uses kitchen shears and swears its quick and least painful.

My SIL swears by kitchen shears also, i was just afraid to try that.

Here are my incubation results:

Out of the 36 that went past Day 14, 34 have hatched. I am going to wait another day for the remaining 2 before tossing them.

I made the mistake of giving one of the broodies a pipped egg. She promptly started devouring it so had to bring it back in. Needless to say that she is no longer on her nest. I dunked her in a water bucket and sent her straight to the roosting area with no access to a nest. That should set her straight.

Will now need to test the 2nd broody with the chicks. Hopefully she will take them or else I have to raise the chicks.

Out of the 34 that hatched, 24 are in their new homes already. Here is what I kept:

2 choc girls split to mottled
1 black boy split to choc and mottled
1 blue mottled
1 black mottled
1 unspecified choc
3 BBS Jubilees (possibly 4)

Here is a pic of 4 chicks possibly all Jubilees. I only had 3 Jubilee eggs in this incubator. Remaining all were choc mottled project eggs. So either there was a mislabeled egg or one of these chicks is not a Jubilee. Any takers?

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Also, can you believe that of the 33 chocolate mottled eggs I started with, 30 went to lock-down but not one, repeat not one was choc mottled. So I am back to square one. Maybe its a sign to drop this project. Will see!

Are these all Orpingtons? I have chocolates (and mauves, etc) and lavender (separately). I'm still trying to understand the chocolate genetics, so maybe you can help me with some of that!
would love to see more pics!

 

[CyndiD]

@WVduckchick, @Pyxis, @Miss Lydia and @ Anyone who can help me today.

I have a chicken externally pipping at the small end of her egg. what should I or Shouldn't I Do?
thanks for any help..... ASAP
I know it's Fathers Day, i hope someone is reading this thread today.

 

[CyndiD]

I need help with 2 chicks.

First one- I heard a strange sound from the incubator (Brinsea Ovation) like something grinding and a chick screaming. and then there was blood all over the incubator. Opened to find a bloody chick that I first thought was coming from the umbilical cord but upon inspection it was not the case. Instead it seems like one of his wings may have gotten caught in the fan while trying to jump over other eggs. Have applied corn starch and placed it in a separate bowl in the brooder. What else can I do? Apply Neosporin? Getting more mad at Brinsea.

2nd One- What is the best way to put down a chick. I just don't have the heart to do it. A newly hatched is:

• missing a toe &
• on the same leg, the portion between knee and ankle is missing and the whole foot is facing backwards. Its not a dislocation, its just backwards.

I don't think it can survive like that but miracles do happen. Any other options?

I'm so sorry about your chicks in the bator. my Still Air bator has the heat bar on the lid portion of the bator and when the chicks start walking/moving around and when they hear me and stand up they touch the hot heat bar w/their heads. Thank God I have not had any bad burns, but i know when they touch it it hurts cuz i have touch it and it does hurt. I think my Still Air bator needs some improvements, like a non-heating screen or something.
As for the culling a chick or any animal.... i give them a kiss and say a prayer and give them to my DH; i just cant do it myself.

 

[Pyxis]

@WVduckchick, @Pyxis, @Miss Lydia and @ Anyone who can help me today.

I have a chicken externally pipping at the small end of her egg. what should I or Shouldn't I Do?
thanks for any help..... ASAP
I know it's Fathers Day, i hope someone is reading this thread today.View attachment 1046319

Luckily a lot of times they can hatch on their own in this malposition, so you might not have to help at all.

For now, treat the time it pipped as when it normally would have internally pipped, so allow 24 hours from that to when it would normally have externally pipped, and then another 24 hours from that time before you start to worry and help

 

[CyndiD]

Luckily a lot of times they can hatch on their own in this malposition, so you might not have to help at all.

For now, treat the time it pipped as when it normally would have internally pipped, so allow 24 hours from that to when it would normally have externally pipped, and then another 24 hours from that time before you start to worry and help

thank you very much for replying and for the help/information. i appreciate you.

p.s. i just cked on the chick and she hatched... ya!!!

 

[WVduckchick]

thank you very much for replying and for the help/information. i appreciate you.

p.s. i just cked on the chick and she hatched... ya!!!
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So glad to see this. Congrats!

 

[Junibutt]

Wow, I've never seen one do that after a few days, unless its spraddled or slipped tendon, which yours doesn't look like. The legs just look way too skinny!
I wonder if you put it in a small plastic bowl, pad around it with some paper towels or something, and give it some room, but make it want to jump out, i wonder if it would try. anything to work up its leg strength? I don't know, I'm sorry.

and you've probably seen this site, but in case you haven't, check this out. https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/poultry-podiatry

Edit - after watching again, i think it's right leg has a slipped tendon.



My SIL swears by kitchen shears also, i was just afraid to try that.



Are these all Orpingtons? I have chocolates (and mauves, etc) and lavender (separately). I'm still trying to understand the chocolate genetics, so maybe you can help me with some of that!
would love to see more pics!

Yes all were orps. Some choc, some choc split to mottled, some black mottled, lemon cuckoo, Jubilee and blue cuckoo. I also have mauve so certainly can talk about chocolate blue and mauve genetics. Shoot away your questions. I have inserted a video as well as a pic. They have just gotten attached at wrong spots.