Harris Farms Nurture Right 360 Incubator is AMAZING!

[TJAnonymous]

You'll have to remind me what's up with it. Do you think it's viable just late? Or have there been issues with it all alone? Feel free to candle it and check for movement or air cell progress.

Honestly I'm not sure what is wrong with it. I didn't take pictures before lockdown because I was paranoid about having the top off for too long. This picture below is the egg on Day 15.

I can candle it tonight and see if there is movement or if it looks any different from what is pictured here.

I was going to give it until Day 24 before giving up... Although I've seen posts from others who waited as long as Day 28. Just don't want to give up too soon if there is a chance.

 

[CluckNDoodle]

Honestly I'm not sure what is wrong with it. I didn't take pictures before lockdown because I was paranoid about having the top off for too long. This picture below is the egg on Day 15.

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I can candle it tonight and see if there is movement or if it looks any different from what is pictured here.

I was going to give it until Day 24 before giving up... Although I've seen posts from others who waited as long as Day 28. Just don't want to give up too soon if there is a chance.

While there are people that have had successful hatches at late as day 25 this has never happened to me in the NR360s. With a hatch that late you would expect to have low temps throughout incubation which isn't the case since you had two hatch in a timely manner (or a cold spot but that's not possible in the NR360 because the turner rotates around the entire incubator all day).

These were refrigerator eggs right? That can delay hatches if I remember correctly, I haven't tried hatching refrigerated eggs yet myself but I plan on trying it this spring for an experiment.

Definitely candle and let us know what you see!

 

[UThobbyfarmer]

That picture looks like DIS (dead in shell). If it was viable you'd see veining, draw/dip down, and movement. Or something combination of those.

What I do when I want to confirm DIS without compromising a live chick is do a small hole into the air cell. Maybe 1/3" in diameter. You'll be able to clearly see movement and veining if it's alive. If it's not then the chick will be still (unresponsive)/stiff and the membrane visible through the air cell is white and dry/papery. On the off chance it's a viable chick (it's been awhile) I just tape up the hole with porous medical tape and regroup.

 

[UThobbyfarmer]

While there are people that have had successful hatches at late as day 25 this has never happened to me in the NR360s. With a hatch that late you would expect to have low temps throughout incubation which isn't the case since you had two hatch in a timely manner (or a cold spot but that's not possible in the NR360 because the turner rotates around the entire incubator all day).

These were refrigerator eggs right? That can delay hatches if I remember correctly, I haven't tried hatching refrigerated eggs yet myself but I plan on trying it this spring for an experiment.

Definitely candle and let us know what you see!

 

[CluckNDoodle]

That picture looks like DIS (dead in shell). If it was viable you'd see veining, draw/dip down, and movement. Or something combination of those.

What I do when I want to confirm DIS without compromising a live chick is do a small hole into the air cell. Maybe 1/3" in diameter. You'll be able to clearly see movement and veining if it's alive. If it's not then the chick will be still (unresponsive)/stiff and the membrane visible through the air cell is white and dry/papery. On the off chance it's a viable chick (it's been awhile) I just tape up the hole with porous medical tape and regroup.

Good point! If you decide to open the air cell to see what's going on in there I can share some pictures and help to walk you through it. Even when I think the chick has passed I will open the egg very carefully like an assisted hatched.

 

[TJAnonymous]

While there are people that have had successful hatches at late as day 25 this has never happened to me in the NR360s. With a hatch that late you would expect to have low temps throughout incubation which isn't the case since you had two hatch in a timely manner (or a cold spot but that's not possible in the NR360 because the turner rotates around the entire incubator all day).

These were refrigerator eggs right? That can delay hatches if I remember correctly, I haven't tried hatching refrigerated eggs yet myself but I plan on trying it this spring for an experiment.

Definitely candle and let us know what you see!

Not exactly... These eggs were never put in a refrigerator. However it was cold when I collected them (20 - 40 degrees) and there were a couple that were subjected to those temperatures for a day or two before I brought them inside and they warmed to room temperature. None were subjected to the cold longer than 2 days though.

 

[TJAnonymous]

That picture looks like DIS (dead in shell). If it was viable you'd see veining, draw/dip down, and movement. Or something combination of those.

What I do when I want to confirm DIS without compromising a live chick is do a small hole into the air cell. Maybe 1/3" in diameter. You'll be able to clearly see movement and veining if it's alive. If it's not then the chick will be still (unresponsive)/stiff and the membrane visible through the air cell is white and dry/papery. On the off chance it's a viable chick (it's been awhile) I just tape up the hole with porous medical tape and regroup.

I wasn't able to see veining in any of my eggs... Only had two that hatched though so not a lot of opportunities to view them.

At this point, the odds are that it isn't going to hatch so not much to lose. I will candle it tonight to check for movement. If no movement, I'll do what you suggest with the air cell.

 

[TJAnonymous]

Good point! If you decide to open the air cell to see what's going on in there I can share some pictures and help to walk you through it. Even when I think the chick has passed I will open the egg very carefully like an assisted hatched.

That would be wonderful! Thank you!

 

[CluckNDoodle]

Not exactly... These eggs were never put in a refrigerator. However it was cold when I collected them (20 - 40 degrees) and there were a couple that were subjected to those temperatures for a day or two before I brought them inside and they warmed to room temperature. None were subjected to the cold longer than 2 days though.

I would say it's more likely to be a quitter then but you never know! Make sure to sniff the egg before opening if you decide to do so. Nobody wants to open a stinky egg, believe me. Lol

 

[CluckNDoodle]

That would be wonderful! Thank you!

If you open the spoiler tab I included some images of some assisted hatches that I did. They aren't your exact situation but they will make it easier to show you kind of what to expect to see inside the egg. First I candle the egg and mark the air cell. I use a screw sterilized with rubbing alcohol to carefully score and pick at the egg to open a hole in the air cell. I'm careful not to push because you can see how close the chick can be to the shell even when it looks like they're further away when candling.

Spoiler: Assisted Hatch Images