Hatching Eggs / Paypal CHAT Thread

[Brookhavens]

I haven't tried it personally, but know people who swear by it - put the Vick's on the bottom of their FEET and then put on a pair of heavy wool socks. Really works to ease the coughing and let them sleep.

My grandmother was from the old country and I am so glad I took her advice when I had children of my own. You put mentholatum rub (has to be metholatum not Vick's) on their chest, back of knees and then the bottom of their feet and then put a pair of heavy cotton socks on the feet. Every time I used this they would sleep through the night and wake up feeling much better.

 

[WVstruttin]

So, you guys know I love this thread, and I have spent my fair share of pp's and claimed my share of spring eggs...and I am the last one to criticize anyone for chicken math because I am the biggest culprit when it comes to buying eggs & birds.

However, I feel like I have to say something about how I've been feeling lately with regards to the swap. Recently we had someone swapping with ill intentions. This person was claiming pp's and offering spring eggs for birds he did not own, or ever intend to own. He would send some eggs, but it turns out most of those eggs were double shipped from other sources, and very few, if any, ended up hatching for the recipients, and a high percentage ended up being rotten. He was also receivng swaps from other people on the thread and selling them on eBay to unsuspecting buyers. This person has since disappeared from the swap, and there are many people who have claimed things from him and will never receive them, and have sent their items and will now never be reimbursed. I would like to know exactly how we will deal with this situation. I personally think there needs to be some kind of decision, some kind of tally with regards to exactly what has been lost, and see if we can compensate those who are out swaps for this terrible situation. If that is already in progress, great. I think some more communication on the subject would assuage the concern going on right now.

Further, I know that because of this person, there recenty were some rules with regards to offers of spring eggs that were instituted. I'm not sure if maybe I missed some reversal of those rules, but I have noticed that they are not being followed...not everyone is being clear about the age of the birds they are offering spring eggs from. I know that there are eggs being offered from birds that are just now baby chicks. I think if a person is claiming eggs under these circumstances, they should be aware of it so they can make an informed decision.

At first when the spring eggs were offered I didn't really think it was a big deal, I claimed lots of them for myself because I was excited about the breeds being offered, and I didn't want to miss out. Now after watching the sheer volume of spring eggs flying around, I've become really uncomfortable with it, I know we are all adults, and if I'm uncomfortable then it's my prerogative not to participate, but I know there are a lot of new people here who may not realize the magnitude of what is owed come spring. I personally think we should stop with the spring eggs, for everyone's sake. When the eggs are available, it will be just as much fun swapping them then, and I no longer feel that it makes sense to swap "on credit".

I'm sorry if what I've said offends anyone, but I had to say something.

You know, It"s a shame that one person can be so deceitful. I too swapped with the person you are talking about and I know that I will probably never see my spring eggs but I know there"s nothing I can do about it now. Oh well, live and learn

 

[kraftyladies]

My birds just got tested for NPIP!!! Now to wait...... the blood test was fine, and he said he is sure the swabs are fine too....so hopefully in about 2 weeks I will be certified!!

 

[RedBrush Farm]

So, you guys know I love this thread, and I have spent my fair share of pp's and claimed my share of spring eggs...and I am the last one to criticize anyone for chicken math because I am the biggest culprit when it comes to buying eggs & birds.

However, I feel like I have to say something about how I've been feeling lately with regards to the swap. Recently we had someone swapping with ill intentions. This person was claiming pp's and offering spring eggs for birds he did not own, or ever intend to own. He would send some eggs, but it turns out most of those eggs were double shipped from other sources, and very few, if any, ended up hatching for the recipients, and a high percentage ended up being rotten. He was also receiving swaps from other people on the thread and selling them on eBay to unsuspecting buyers. This person has since disappeared from the swap, and there are many people who have claimed things from him and will never receive them, and have sent their items and will now never be reimbursed. I would like to know exactly how we will deal with this situation. I personally think there needs to be some kind of decision, some kind of tally with regards to exactly what has been lost, and see if we can compensate those who are out swaps for this terrible situation. If that is already in progress, great. I think some more communication on the subject would assuage the concern going on right now.

Further, I know that because of this person, there recently were some rules with regards to offers of spring eggs that were instituted. I'm not sure if maybe I missed some reversal of those rules, but I have noticed that they are not being followed...not everyone is being clear about the age of the birds they are offering spring eggs from. I know that there are eggs being offered from birds that are just now baby chicks. I think if a person is claiming eggs under these circumstances, they should be aware of it so they can make an informed decision.

At first when the spring eggs were offered I didn't really think it was a big deal, I claimed lots of them for myself because I was excited about the breeds being offered, and I didn't want to miss out. Now after watching the sheer volume of spring eggs flying around, I've become really uncomfortable with it, I know we are all adults, and if I'm uncomfortable then it's my prerogative not to participate, but I know there are a lot of new people here who may not realize the magnitude of what is owed come spring. I personally think we should stop with the spring eggs, for everyone's sake. When the eggs are available, it will be just as much fun swapping them then, and I no longer feel that it makes sense to swap "on credit".

I'm sorry if what I've said offends anyone, but I had to say something.

X2 - I lost 4 PayPal payments and 12+ serama eggs to the above mentioned. I have offered spring eggs, but only from the hens I have laying currently. (although they are on strike at the moment) I also try not to hold the swap up. If I am offering something no one is interested in at the time I will offer a PP or resend the offer. This is a great place for many of us to get eggs we may never get otherwise and it is also very fun. The above mentioned person was offering eggs I really wanted so I was not worried about offering PayPal to get the swap completed. However, we should not go into this naive as it seems there are unscrupulous people every we turn these days. Even in the chicken community. I have claimed spring eggs and have watched the post and talked to others who know these swappers and I have no doubt I will receive my eggs. It is just a shame we have to worry about being able to take others at their word. I love this swap and the chat thread. It is nice to talk/swap and gain information from others we may have never had contact with otherwise. Lets play nice and be courteous and kind to each other.

 

[WVstruttin]

My birds just got tested for NPIP!!! Now to wait...... the blood test was fine, and he said he is sure the swabs are fine too....so hopefully in about 2 weeks I will be certified!!

Congrats Krafty. The biggest thing for me being NPIP is peace of mind. Just knowing my birds are clean and healthy and being able to tell people that they are makes one feel pretty good.

 

[madamwlf]

X2 - I lost 4 PayPal payments and 12+ serama eggs to the above mentioned. I have offered spring eggs, but only from the hens I have laying currently. (although they are on strike at the moment) I also try not to hold the swap up. If I am offering something no one is interested in at the time I will offer a PP or resend the offer. This is a great place for many of us to get eggs we may never get otherwise and it is also very fun. The above mentioned person was offering eggs I really wanted so I was not worried about offering PayPal to get the swap completed. However, we should not go into this naive as it seems there are unscrupulous people every we turn these days. Even in the chicken community. I have claimed spring eggs and have watched the post and talked to others who know these swappers and I have no doubt I will receive my eggs. It is just a shame we have to worry about being able to take others at their word. I love this swap and the chat thread. It is nice to talk/swap and gain information from others we may have never had contact with otherwise. Lets play nice and be courteous and kind to each other.

x1000

Heck, I only come on here now for the swap and the chat thread. You really do have to swap at your own risk and most of us aren't willing to destroy our reputation here by offering eggs we can't fulfill.

 

[madamwlf]

My birds just got tested for NPIP!!! Now to wait...... the blood test was fine, and he said he is sure the swabs are fine too....so hopefully in about 2 weeks I will be certified!!

Congrats to you!!!!

 

[BHep]

In regards to the above posts:

I know a "disaster fund" had been set up in case this happened. I for one signed up to help those that get shafted. I myself will not get my dream birds, the Jubilee Orps., fortunately... he happened to claim on my offers also and I have not and will not send him anything at this point. So I did not really lose out.


Also: Most swapper have set up a swap page or something with pictures and # of birds etc. It is up to you to look for it. Mine is in my Swap page in my signature and pictures are in my profile.

 

[kraftyladies]

The swap leader and moderators do their best to keep this an honest, fun thread. However, in any situation, we as adults know that there can be and usually is one person that tries to ruin it for everyone, and/or is dishonest person in the mix. We are working on putting a plan in place to help resolve the issues of spring eggs that were offered by this person. Since it is not spring yet, it hasn't been put into place. I think we wanted everyone to just enjoy the holidays, and we will get to that when it is time.

 

[DMRippy]

Yeah, I think I lost about 2 doz eggs..... time will tell, but I guess it is just a loss. I really want those pretty EE he showed.... they were so pretty

I am going to be OPTIMISTIC ...... forever