Hatching Eggs / Paypal CHAT Thread

[mzstre]

This why you must keep your birds in a coop that is totally closed to the possibility of outside birds contact to be NPIP in PA - even though MG is not tested for.  Many people believe Pollorium and AI are stupid things to test for when they are not very common anymore.  Instead, MG should be a concern.  I was concerned I had an MG infected bird - I actually just culled him on Easter after owning him (and kept in quarantine) for almost a year.  He never had a runny nose, but he did have the raspy breathing.  The owner of the bird before me had him for a year with no illnesses.  The owner of him before that is a well known breeder and also claims she had no illnesses.  I had no illnesses.  I honestly think the way he was housed is the issue.  I think he had pneumonia before and it was never treated and scarred his lungs.  He got worse over this past winter.  I culled him anyways.  I wasn't going to take a chance.  It has been a pain is the arse keeping him in quarantine for so long.  Everything he has ever touched has had to be bleached and sprayed with Oxine.  I had to take special precautions during feeding, watering and when I walked in and cleaned his pen.

Sadly, there are breeders out there that continue to breed and sell knowing they have or had MG in their flocks.  What's worse is someone could have it and just not know.  I totally stopped allowing mine the luxury of free ranging after I moved to this place over a year ago.  

I am very sorry you have to go through this, Pysankigirl.  Like everyone else is saying, don't stop doing what you love.

I am not sure it will work, but I was told that since Oxine AH kills everything it has ever been tested on, try using the Oxine in a humidifier and fog your birds you are concerned about.  I read a bit about the MG strains and they die outside of a host within 3 days because they are an unprotected cell.  Bare with me, I am trying to explain without the proper technical terms... The host becomes their protection.  You would think that Oxine being breathed in would kill the MG cells.  Antibiotics don't work because there is no way for it to actually attack the cells, it just helps control the symptoms.  I am not sure, but I think it's worth a try.

I don't know if it really helps either, but I fog all birds in quarantine and any birds that go to new homes as well with Oxine.

 

[krazykat0373]

ok, I have a question for the duck raisers here......how long do I need to brood these ducklings (cayugas)? I mean they are so big now, there is no way a mama duck could keep them under her to keep them warm, but they haven't feathered out at all...Am I keeping them too warm?

how old are they? by 30 days there is no heat lamp for ducklings

3 weeks Saturday...shouldn't they be feathering out by now?

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Please tell me I am not the only one OCD about boxes of live birds I ship out? I track them from my phone with the USPS ap, its so easy really. Print the labels apply to the boxes, scan the barcode and make a note of what and where. Then I can watch when they arrive somewhere (if they are scanned), when they arrive at the receiving PO, and when the person getting them actually picks them up. The last comes in handy the most since we have had some not track the birds themselves.

 

[madamwlf]

Pysankigirl, I am so sorry to hear that.

Continue enjoying what you have.

I think the best way to determine a bird is a carrier when you buy it is to put one of your birds in with it. I know some may not agree but you will never know if it is a carrier unless you have a non carrier with it.

 

[madamwlf]

TNbearchick, the augsburger should have white on them. I just looked at my older chicks and they have white on their chests a bit and some wing tips.

 

[Hollowoakfarm]

Laura, I'm so sorry! I lost my entire flock to MG last year. We got put on quarantine by the state and our options were to close the farm and remain on a permanent quarantine state, or destroy the flock. Since ours are not pets, we destroyed the flock. We tried testing out the asymptomatic ones, but they failed. We did manage to save the turkeys by testing out. Every chicken house got scrubbed down, bleached down, every feeder, waterer...everything, even though it can't live that long outside the host. I was paranoid. I still am. It's a horrid disease.

Hugs for you and your beautiful birds!

 

[mzstre]

Please tell me I am not the only one OCD about boxes of live birds I ship out? I track them from my phone with the USPS ap, its so easy really. Print the labels apply to the boxes, scan the barcode and make a note of what and where. Then I can watch when they arrive somewhere (if they are scanned), when they arrive at the receiving PO, and when the person getting them actually picks them up. The last comes in handy the most since we have had some not track the birds themselves.

I do the same thing - I love the app!

 

[madamwlf]

I do the same thing - I love the app!

I am a freak about tracking my live bird shipments, in and out going. I'm usually a nervous wreck until I hear they made it safe!

 

[TNBEARCHICK]

dang it, have an augsburger and a mystery chick that don't look like they are gonna make it. It never is the cheaper ones that have a rough time. That stinks!

 

[madamwlf]

dang it, have an augsburger and a mystery chick that don't look like they are gonna make it. It never is the cheaper ones that have a rough time. That stinks!

A mystery chick???? there is no such thing. what's it look like? And I hope they make it.