Hatching with 2 broodies

Helllooo Team Broody!
Remember me? Tee Hee .. one week away from the thread and I have 5 pages of posts to catch up on . I luv Team Broody!

Liz, sorry to read that Jan is not laying yet.
TG and 16 paws, also sorry to read about your egg dramas.
Congratulations CC999. Beautiful bubbies and mum is very pretty also.
TG, what a relief that you heard back from your Silkie lady. When do you get your special new girl?
TGG, talk about boys behaving badly! Gees

I haven’t seen an egg for at least 2 weeks! Dusty is molting, Tina, Blondie and Tammy are too young and Cilla is still playing mumma.

Integration is going well except for Cilla picking on Tina a little but then Tina seems to manage to put herself in situations that she cannot get out of without being told off by Cilla. They have plenty of room but Tina is not as smart as Dusty and is not as accomplished at the ‘stay-out-of-the-broody-mumma’s-way’ routine. It doesn’t help that Tina carries on like someone is killing her if Cilla goes near.

Blondie and Tammy are just over 6 weeks old now and as adorable as ever. I am fairly positive that Tammy is a pullet, especially at 6 weeks; Blondie, without doubt! They are quite happy free ranging but stick close to Cilla. They have also progressed to roosting with her with a little help from me because some nights they seem to forget how to get up to the roost and just run around below it peeping at mumma who chatters encouragement for them to jump.

If I get time today, I will try and get some more pictures.

OK, I see a couple of people were keen to be bored by my humble opinion on the differences between the two hatches and how I somehow managed to get two very snuggly bubbies on the second hatch. So, here goes ….

As you know, same broody mumma both hatches. Cilla is very friendly, does not run away and is more than happy for me to pick her up.

With her first hatch, I tried to leave her in the Chateau coop and run with the others, hoping to avoid separating her and therefore bypassing integration down the track. Unfortunately Dusty wanted to lay in the same nest box as Cilla had the bubbies and fighting and pecking ensued. We rushed out and bought the Ranch into which we put Cilla and the bubbies.

Mistakes I think I made:
* Cilla had never had babies before and had also never seen the Ranch before, so moving her when the chicks were not even a day old made her nervous which reflected on the chicks.
* The Ranch, while very safe, does not have a lot of ‘look outside’ qualities and basically the only time Cilla and the chicks saw much was when I cleaned and fed them.
* They did get to come outside for a supervised free range, but because I did not have a special area for them, there was a lot of herding and chasing to get them back in again or general herding to keep them out of trouble. Also, because Dusty was not used to them, she would join in, semi-attacking and making matters worse.
* The Ranch had to be moved a couple of times also. Once because I had it in the wrong spot (too much sun and too hot) and secondly when I attached it to the opposite end of the run from the Chateau at integration.
* When the time came for integration, Dusty had not seen a lot of the chicks and was not used to them so I still had to split them up but then Cilla wanted to roost and cut the cord, leaving the chicks to their own devices when integration happened. So not only did they have Dusty to contend with, their mumma was also not particularly interested in protecting them either.

What I think I did right this time:
* Cilla got to stay in the Chateau alone with the bubbies from Day 1 and everyone could see each other through the small dividing wire door to the run which I closed.
* The Chateau has a small wired run so the chicks could see all the comings and goings in the garden, including me walking past numerous times a day, Dusty and Tina free ranging, wild birds fighting over the seed I leave out for them etc.
* I also added a temporary fence, creating a small free range area for them when they got a little bigger. The fence has now gone back in the shed.
* This time integration has happened while Cilla is still being protective, so the little munchkins run around with no fear.
* No upheavals, no moving, no stress.

The lessons learnt from the first hatch meant that I did not have to herd and catch them to get them back in and I could spend many hours just sitting with them, letting them come to me. Not having to herd them means that whenever I am with them, I am either feeding them, just spending time with them or walking past on my way somewhere else; they are not scared of me at all and when I do sit on the lawn to watch them, they run over and jump on my legs.

Cilla is way more relaxed also and I think this has helped no end.

I have read that you should start picking the chicks up from Day 1 so that they are used to you doing that, but I disagree slightly. Just my opinion, but I think you should spend as much time as you can just with them and let them get used to you in their own time rather than force them.

I guess to sum it up, I hope Tammy and Blondie are thinking here comes Mum who is either going to feed us, sit and chat to us or let us sleep on her nice warm foot as opposed to here comes that lady who is going to pick us up or round us up!

Anyway, as I said, just my experience which I hope helps.

The major software roll out at work happened Monday morning and last week was full on but things have calmed down now and hopefully I will be able to check in more often and not spend a week away from my online friends
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The major software roll out at work happened Monday morning and last week was full on but things have calmed down now and hopefully I will be able to check in more often and not spend a week away from my online friends
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Nice to see you again, here, Teila! Congrats on the big roll-out! I met another suddenish deadline on Friday, and things are much calmer now for me too.

It's helpful to get your insights on the differences with your hatches, but I'm thinking my situation isn't all that different from your second - lots of open air, I only bring the chickens good things, friendly, low-stress, flock. I think the main difference for me is that Frida is my most skittish hen, and she was the main broody mama. I suspect she taught her babies to be scared of me, somewhat. Desi is as docile as can be when I put him in the man cave at night, but he won't let me pet him during the day, and forget it for Lucy! Oh well, maybe she'll warm up some day.

In other news, I ordered Bettina a saddle, because she was getting a rough patch, and I didn't want her to get bald like Rousseau. She's so docile, she sat in my lap for a good while after I put it on her, asking me all about it. It has been cold and rainy here, and today was the first beautiful day in awhile, so we had a nice range, and I took lots of pictures. Enjoy!

The whole flock, helping with spring weeding:


I don't know what she sees in him:


Whatchu lookin' at?
 
Thank you Liz :)

Yeah, as I said, just my experience and an admission that I stuffed up a little first time round. Having a relaxed, friendly mumma is always a bonus I think :)

Beautiful pictures! I love the one of the whole family together :)
Oh, how handsome has Desi become? Bettina is as gorgeous as ever, very pretty saddle.

"She's so docile, she sat in my lap for a good while after I put it on her, asking me all about it. " That is too cute! I can picture you two having a chat about her new fashion accessory :)

I can also imagine her asking "does that thing you are pointing at me dispense treats?"

I think my challenge for today is to get a picture of the whole family also :)

We have had some dramas with the pond filter-water feeder-river thing leaking of late so we pulled up two of the ponds and repositioned them, hopefully reducing the number of places we could lose water. The girls were very impressed with the landscaping; helping out all they could, sifting through the dirt removing bugs. Still have a few more things to finish off but I will take some pictures today :)
 
Just waiting for the groceries to be delivered so no free range or chicken pictures until after he has gone but this is the new set up of the ponds.

The top pond/bird bath feeds into the filter which in turn feeds into the middle pond which now waterfalls into the bottom pond. Well, they will when we put the cleaning tap on the filter and fire it up
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Helllooo Team Broody!
Remember me? Tee Hee .. one week away from the thread and I have 5 pages of posts to catch up on . I luv Team Broody!

Liz, sorry to read that Jan is not laying yet.
TG and 16 paws, also sorry to read about your egg dramas.
Congratulations CC999. Beautiful bubbies and mum is very pretty also.
TG, what a relief that you heard back from your Silkie lady. When do you get your special new girl?
TGG, talk about boys behaving badly! Gees

I haven’t seen an egg for at least 2 weeks! Dusty is molting, Tina, Blondie and Tammy are too young and Cilla is still playing mumma.

Integration is going well except for Cilla picking on Tina a little but then Tina seems to manage to put herself in situations that she cannot get out of without being told off by Cilla. They have plenty of room but Tina is not as smart as Dusty and is not as accomplished at the ‘stay-out-of-the-broody-mumma’s-way’ routine. It doesn’t help that Tina carries on like someone is killing her if Cilla goes near.

Blondie and Tammy are just over 6 weeks old now and as adorable as ever. I am fairly positive that Tammy is a pullet, especially at 6 weeks; Blondie, without doubt! They are quite happy free ranging but stick close to Cilla. They have also progressed to roosting with her with a little help from me because some nights they seem to forget how to get up to the roost and just run around below it peeping at mumma who chatters encouragement for them to jump.

If I get time today, I will try and get some more pictures.

OK, I see a couple of people were keen to be bored by my humble opinion on the differences between the two hatches and how I somehow managed to get two very snuggly bubbies on the second hatch. So, here goes ….

As you know, same broody mumma both hatches. Cilla is very friendly, does not run away and is more than happy for me to pick her up.

With her first hatch, I tried to leave her in the Chateau coop and run with the others, hoping to avoid separating her and therefore bypassing integration down the track. Unfortunately Dusty wanted to lay in the same nest box as Cilla had the bubbies and fighting and pecking ensued. We rushed out and bought the Ranch into which we put Cilla and the bubbies.

Mistakes I think I made:
* Cilla had never had babies before and had also never seen the Ranch before, so moving her when the chicks were not even a day old made her nervous which reflected on the chicks.
* The Ranch, while very safe, does not have a lot of ‘look outside’ qualities and basically the only time Cilla and the chicks saw much was when I cleaned and fed them.
* They did get to come outside for a supervised free range, but because I did not have a special area for them, there was a lot of herding and chasing to get them back in again or general herding to keep them out of trouble. Also, because Dusty was not used to them, she would join in, semi-attacking and making matters worse.
* The Ranch had to be moved a couple of times also. Once because I had it in the wrong spot (too much sun and too hot) and secondly when I attached it to the opposite end of the run from the Chateau at integration.
* When the time came for integration, Dusty had not seen a lot of the chicks and was not used to them so I still had to split them up but then Cilla wanted to roost and cut the cord, leaving the chicks to their own devices when integration happened. So not only did they have Dusty to contend with, their mumma was also not particularly interested in protecting them either.

What I think I did right this time:
* Cilla got to stay in the Chateau alone with the bubbies from Day 1 and everyone could see each other through the small dividing wire door to the run which I closed.
* The Chateau has a small wired run so the chicks could see all the comings and goings in the garden, including me walking past numerous times a day, Dusty and Tina free ranging, wild birds fighting over the seed I leave out for them etc.
* I also added a temporary fence, creating a small free range area for them when they got a little bigger. The fence has now gone back in the shed.
* This time integration has happened while Cilla is still being protective, so the little munchkins run around with no fear.
* No upheavals, no moving, no stress.

The lessons learnt from the first hatch meant that I did not have to herd and catch them to get them back in and I could spend many hours just sitting with them, letting them come to me. Not having to herd them means that whenever I am with them, I am either feeding them, just spending time with them or walking past on my way somewhere else; they are not scared of me at all and when I do sit on the lawn to watch them, they run over and jump on my legs.

Cilla is way more relaxed also and I think this has helped no end.

I have read that you should start picking the chicks up from Day 1 so that they are used to you doing that, but I disagree slightly. Just my opinion, but I think you should spend as much time as you can just with them and let them get used to you in their own time rather than force them.

I guess to sum it up, I hope Tammy and Blondie are thinking here comes Mum who is either going to feed us, sit and chat to us or let us sleep on her nice warm foot as opposed to here comes that lady who is going to pick us up or round us up!

Anyway, as I said, just my experience which I hope helps.

The major software roll out at work happened Monday morning and last week was full on but things have calmed down now and hopefully I will be able to check in more often and not spend a week away from my online friends
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Hi Teila, thanks for the update. I think that is very good information on the differences of your two hatches. I will think about all that if Penny hatches any of her eggs. I agree letting them see each other is key. I also agree on not handling them too much at first, just being there helps them get to know you.
Marie
 
Nice to see you again, here, Teila! Congrats on the big roll-out! I met another suddenish deadline on Friday, and things are much calmer now for me too.

It's helpful to get your insights on the differences with your hatches, but I'm thinking my situation isn't all that different from your second - lots of open air, I only bring the chickens good things, friendly, low-stress, flock. I think the main difference for me is that Frida is my most skittish hen, and she was the main broody mama. I suspect she taught her babies to be scared of me, somewhat. Desi is as docile as can be when I put him in the man cave at night, but he won't let me pet him during the day, and forget it for Lucy! Oh well, maybe she'll warm up some day.

In other news, I ordered Bettina a saddle, because she was getting a rough patch, and I didn't want her to get bald like Rousseau. She's so docile, she sat in my lap for a good while after I put it on her, asking me all about it. It has been cold and rainy here, and today was the first beautiful day in awhile, so we had a nice range, and I took lots of pictures. Enjoy!

The whole flock, helping with spring weeding:

I don't know what she sees in him:


Whatchu lookin' at?
Great pictures Liz, that is so pretty with the steps and the all the green, reminds me of a french countryside! The chickens are so beautiful and healthy. Was it you that said you ferment their food? What brand of food do you use?
Thanks
Marie
 
Great pictures Liz, that is so pretty with the steps and the all the green, reminds me of a french countryside! The chickens are so beautiful and healthy. Was it you that said you ferment their food? What brand of food do you use?
Thanks
Marie
Thanks, Marie! I get organic feed from Modesto Mills. There's an urban ag. association that does group orders, so we pay cost - about $24 for a 50lb bag. I ferment some scratch grains for them, but that's just a about 1/2 cup a day for them. I think the daily free-ranging and having plenty of space helps them stay healthy more than anything else. Desi is definitely not helping.
 
Hey Teila! Been a while!! Glad to hear everyone is doing well with integration! Excited to see some new pics of Tammy and Blondie!

Liz, maybe our roosters need to go to school together to learn to be easy on the hens! I ordered 5 saddles, one for each EE. I only put one on Cleo, since she was the worst off. She happens to be my most skittish hen… and let me tell you, that was a chore! To be honest, all the EE are pretty skittish. I sure hope no one is watching when I catch the rest up! Darth Vader is next, with MJ not too far behind. Great pics! I loooooove that everything is turning green again! We have been super busy today pruning (a bit late, but firewood took priority) the apple trees. They are a real mess. I would guess it may have been 10 years since they have had anything cut off of them.
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HI ladies!
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Glad to hear from ya'll Glad you had a good visit TG. Sounds like fun...Vegas. I'm so jealous. My hubbie and I talked about a quick weekend away to take advantage of my first weekend off in forever, but we had so much to catch up on at home. We will plan our roadtrip for later. ...That's OK. I'm a homebody.


Whatchu lookin' at?

Love those Bettina pictures.....
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She is so expressive. And I dont even get to hear her chatting....lol. I can hear her in the first pic, looking back at her saddle saying, "does this make my hips look big? lol.
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Quote: I agree! Desi is gorgeous!!!! He's a pretty big boy isnt he?

Wow. I'm so impressed with your yard. I may be a copy cat and use some of your ideas to decorate my patio... I added two new flower beds today. My nephews "helped" with the digging. One is five and the other is seven, no real help... but I gave them a basket of goodies for helping anyway. My garden seems to be loving the addition of the chicken fertilizer.
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The straw and "chicken fertilizer" mix really composts quickly and my soil is so much better this year.
 
Thank you TGG ... my garden is my little sanctuary. With the remodeling, I also created a very shady, fun spot for the girls. Moving my bigger pot plants into one area; lots of exploring in the shade:



Got everyone in the same photo! :)
Another favourite spot .. the raised garden bed. Used to be the herb garden (before chickens! lolz) The little bench is also theirs.


Proud mumma :)


No introductions required! :)


Getting Tammy to pose was like an episode of Mission Impossible, but this one shows off her lovely colours :)

 

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