Hatching without shell- I'm doing it!

[Squeeing_Onion]

I would never do it for fame. I'm trying to see if it is possible to do it with a quail egg, as it has only ever been done with chickens. Whatever reason I want to do this, it would certainly not be for fame. I only talked about it on here because I wanted to fuel others curiosity just as this topic fuels mine. This thread is full of people thinking and wondering, giving their opinions on this topic. I would have just done the experiment without putting it on here. I'm not sharing this to any other platform, and the people on the backyard chickens forum are and will be the only people informed of this experiment.
However, the rest of your reply is full of reasonable and fair opinions that I do not have any problem with. I just don't like being accused of doing things for fame.

I'm glad to hear that, and I apologize if it came off as accusation -- My wording was intentional, "appears to be" because, that is what it appeared based on the writing, and no comment had yet come.

Appears to be does not mean, it is truly so; only that evidence observed would suggest it.

I can highlight the wording that creates that impression, if you'd like, so you can present the info without misunderstanding.

 

[Oob Child]

I'm glad to hear that, and I apologize if it came off as accusation -- My wording was intentional, "appears to be" because, that is what it appeared based on the writing, and no comment had yet come.

Appears to be does not mean, it is truly so; only that evidence observed would suggest it.

I can highlight the wording that creates that impression, if you'd like, so you can present the info without misunderstanding.

That would be nice. Thank you.
I now realize I should've written the project aims on the original post.

 

[Dragon Slayer Trinket]

Well, if you're going to do this, I wish your little one luck.

Are you actually removing the shell from an egg or using naturally shelless egg?

 

[Oob Child]

Well, if you're going to do this, I wish your little one luck.

Are you actually removing the shell from an egg or using naturally shelless egg?

Not sure. I was planning on using one with a shell, but if I get a shelless egg I'll definitely use it. At least that would make the experiment less controversial.

 

[terry4backyardchickens]

So, on YouTube there are videos, shorts, etc that show chicken eggs being incubated without shells. I have watched all of these and been fascinated by this for a long time.

There was a Swedish YouTuber called SlivkiShow EN who tried this. It took him 3 full years to finally get one to survive the full incubation process.
An interesting video was made by Yusaku Watanabe who hatched one in a seemingly simpler way. Hi China made a short video documenting the growth process of a chicken, again, without a shell. So many shorts videos have been done in this as well. Yusaku Watanabe has a step by step guide of how he did it in his.

So, why am I talking about this?
I want to try this experiment, and document exactly how I tried/did it using cheap home supplies, using a quail egg. I will not stop until I have hatched the first quail to hatch without a shell. (I will stop, check the bottom of the post).

I will start the experiment in three weeks (I'm going on a holiday) and document it on this thread, then write a BYC article on it.

It would be cool if someone with a premium account could pin this so as many people see this as possible. I want people to know of this. (I'm not sure if it's possible to pin someone else's post)

Here's the cheap materials I will use:
-glad wrap
-fertile quail egg yolk+white
-Plastic cup
-mould for glad wrap (you have to mould it into shape, which I will use another quail egg for)
-hospital grade disinfectant
-absorbent cotton
-crushed eggshell(replacement of calcium powder)
-petri dish

To do this I will be following Yusaku Watanabe's steps and making a completely sterile environment for the embryo to grow in

Can I do this without any scientific experience or expensive equipment?
I'll update this post in exactly 3 weeks when I get the experiment started.
I recommend checking out the videos I mentioned, it will make this seem a whole lot more possible. Videos mentioned/reccomended:
- Yusaki Watanabe - Observation of the Development of Chick Embryo
-SlivkiShow EN - I WAS BORN IN A GLASS!
SlivkiShow EN - WE POURED EGGS INTO A GLASS AND NOW WE'RE WAITING FOR CHICKENS! EXPERIMENT
-Hi China - China's first chick hatched without an eggshell | CCTV English
-Ayush Lab (recommended) - How to Make Life in broken Egg without hen | India's first chick hatched without an eggshell |

Wish me luck

Edit: I'm only trying this once now due to people's skepticism.
I'm doing this with an egg that would otherwise be eaten

I'm just trying to understand why you would want to replace a perfectly designed development system with a sketchy method using plastic wrap and medical chemicals? God provided the perfect environment for a baby chick to grow and flourish. It almost feels like this exterior process is linked to a morbid curiosity. Animals lose their lives so we can eat; is that not enough? I'm not trying to be mean, but I just don't understand why anyone would want to do this. What would be next? Seeing if we can develop an infant outside of the mother's womb? I think it's best to let nature work the miracle of birth as God designed it.

 

[Oob Child]

I'm just trying to understand why you would want to replace a perfectly designed development system with a sketchy method using plastic wrap and medical chemicals? God provided the perfect environment for a baby chick to grow and flourish. It almost feels like this exterior process is linked to a morbid curiosity. Animals lose their lives so we can eat; is that not enough? I'm not trying to be mean, but I just don't understand why anyone would want to do this. What would be next? Seeing if we can develop an infant outside of the mother's womb? I think it's best to let nature work the miracle of birth as God designed it.

My goal is to observe the development of a quail embryo and compare it to that of a chicken. I don't really know what else to say. Everyone here has such good reasons for their opinion, and this is no exception. All your reasons are valid and uncombatable.

 

[Jenni Hen]

In the UK, a scientist proposing an experiment involving live animals must submit the aims, the rationale and the fully-detailed protocol to an ethical commitee.

The proposal must justify why the question needs to be answered and why it cannot be answered without recourse to experimenting on a live animal.

It must include animal welfare aspects including control of pain and how the animal will be euthanased after the experiment.

The submission must refer to similar work by other scientists and must clarify the purpose of this particular experiment, making it plain whether this experiment seeks to replicate a previous result or seeks to answer a new question.

'Fully-detailed' means, for example, details such as how the temperature will be regulated, including failsafes; not just 'a heater' but specifying the heater, the thermometer and the control mechanism.
There should be details of how observations and measurements will be made and recorded; for example, the measuring instruments and details of any photographic, scanning and processing equipment.

 

[Oob Child]

I'm not doing the experiment anymore, if anyone wanted to know.

 

[Mrs J]

I'm not doing the experiment anymore, if anyone wanted to know.

What made you change your mind, if you don’t mind me asking.

 

[Oob Child]

What made you change your mind, if you don’t mind me asking.

Just the fact that it made me feel bad to think about. What if it didn't work the first time and I had a chick's life in my hands?
I would be interested in watching or reading about an experiment like this, comparing the development of a quail to a chicken, but I don't want to do it myself. I've realized there is really no benefit to doing it, other than a bit of interesting research. It's not worth the life of an innocent creature.