Hatchling abandoned and attacked, has strange yellow blob

[biophiliac]

 

[WVduckchick]

Thanks, and thanks for replying.

Too late, I'm afraid, he's been there all night. I just had to try to think what would be worse and thought getting "investigated" by the others might be worse.... No doubt I've done the wrong thing (it's not a very hot/high powered light (it's not really cold here at all), the others have stuck right underneath it and they are all cuddled together, so hopefully he hasn't been "cooked")

We don't have Neosporin over here. The "blob" is just yucky, I don't know whether it's yolk or guts or what... It hasn't really bled, but it's oozed "something" and it's sort of collapsed, just like "stuff' hanging off. If it's broken yolk, what happens? He can't absorb the necessary "stuff" and dies from that, or it lets infection in, or....? I really don't think he'll survive, I just don't know that he's definitely not going to "come good" to make a decision to euthanize him, and I don't know how to euthanize him, anyway

I'm not really worried about that very much, like any wound if it doesn't get infected, hopefully it'll just heal up. It's the "guts" issue that is freaking me out. Also, that he seemed all right beforehand, I can't be sure he just wasn't really badly hurt by being attacked.

I think the others are ok (2/3 anyway), so at least everyone didn't get massacred.

Now I have to try to figure out how to look after them myself and how to eventually get them back out there with the other chooks without getting murdered....

As for Paulina, I don't think she'll get broken from being clucky which was the whole point of letting her have some eggs.

sigh.

If he made it through the night, that's a great sign! Must not be too warm, so just do what you are doing. Hopefully in a couple days or less, he will perk up and start bopping around. It's amazing how fast they recover to some things. The stuff hanging out will either dry up and fall off, or get absorbed into the body. So as long as it isn't being dragged around or pecked terribly, it should be ok.
I don't think it will come to a cull decision on your part. It will either heal and be ok, or just pass on his own. Hope that doesn't sound mean of me, but if you do have to do the deed, we'll help you through that too....

Maybe after the chicks are good and healthy, you can slip them back under Paulina and give her a chance.

 

[User395221]

Thanks, did you see my edit? I was probably doing that while you were doing your reply. Is it possible that it's intestines hanging out?

I don't know who murdered/attacked them. if it was paulina herself, I don't want her to have the chicks and I couldn't bear to put them when I know they are fine and then have them murdered or injured. It all happened quickly and I was lucky I went to check to find out what had happened, or more would have died (the one lying out in the run would have been a goner, for sure)

Last time, I had the 2 silkies and their "mum" (Flossie, on the right of avatar) stepped in with them, but Paulina's all "pecky", she wouldn't accept any help, even if it is offered. I'd like to have Flossie look after them, but I don't know that she would just take on any old chicks, could she? Could i try to get her to adopt them, and put her on her own with them?

I had a look at the eggs in with Paulina, they aren't all the added ones, which means somebody else has been pushing her way in there to lay. I don't think the last marked one will hatch, I looked at it with the torch and it didn't look right (half empty looking). As to where the other marked ones went, I've no idea. Eaten, perhaps?

 

[WVduckchick]

Thanks, did you see my edit? I was probably doing that while you were doing your reply. Is it possible that it's intestines hanging out?

I don't know who murdered/attacked them. if it was paulina herself, I don't want her to have the chicks and I couldn't bear to put them when I know they are fine and then have them murdered or injured. It all happened quickly and I was lucky I went to check to find out what had happened, or more would have died (the one lying out in the run would have been a goner, for sure)

Last time, I had the 2 silkies and their "mum" (Flossie, on the right of avatar) stepped in with them, but Paulina's all "pecky", she wouldn't accept any help, even if it is offered. I'd like to have Flossie look after them, but I don't know that she would just take on any old chicks, could she? Could i try to get her to adopt them, and put her on her own with them?

I had a look at the eggs in with Paulina, they aren't all the added ones, which means somebody else has been pushing her way in there to lay. I don't think the last marked one will hatch, I looked at it with the torch and it didn't look right (half empty looking). As to where the other marked ones went, I've no idea. Eaten, perhaps?

Oh I'm sorry! I didn't see your edit. If it is intestines, I would have expected it to have died already. Can you get a picture?

If you feel the best thing is to put it out of misery, i can describe what i do, and you can search here, there are many methods, so it really depends on what you are comfortable doing. It's never easy, but sometimes necessary.

With trying the other chicks with another momma, all i can say is it depends on the hen. a broody one would be the best option, but if you want to try another, i would separate them from other hens, and give it a supervised shot. If she has no other hens around, she would be more likely to accept them, but it's a crap shoot.

 

[micstrachan]

Aaww.... I'm so sorry about your littke chick. Is there any change in his status? (you did say "he", right?)

 

[User395221]

Can you get a picture?

I'll try, I don't want to disturb the poor little thing too much.

If you feel the best thing is to put it out of misery, i can describe what i do, and you can search here, there are many methods, so it really depends on what you are comfortable doing. It's never easy, but sometimes necessary.

With trying the other chicks with another momma, all i can say is it depends on the hen. a broody one would be the best option, but if you want to try another, i would separate them from other hens, and give it a supervised shot.

I actually went out and fetched Flossie and put her in. She just stood there, she's not broody, so it might be asking too much. I've decided to give Paulina a shot in an isolated house. If it wasn't her who did it, it's unfair not to let her have her babies. I'll overcome my fears and give it a go, but if there's any sign of any nastiness, they're coming straight back out. I've just given a little cage I've got a good squirt out with the hose (spiders! lots of spiders!) As soon as it's dry, I'll move them in there.

I'll try to get a photo of the "guts".

EDIT: I'm just calling it "him", I don't know why.

 

[User395221]

He's gone.

Here's the photo, I'd like some feedback as to what was wrong, if anyone can enlighten me. Sorry it's crap, I don't know how to get a closeup photo properly

 

[Smuvers Farm]

Has he walked around with that sticking out yet? Looks like intestines to me.

 

[MotherHen2017]

Oh potato chip! I'm sorry about the poor little one. So you did finally set Paulina? We had a similar thing happen to one of the 2 chicks that came out of setting our second hen. Ours didn't survive either.

 

[User395221]

Has he walked around with that sticking out yet?

I think he was up and about until he was attacked and left. After that, no, just lying there.
He isn't actually dead yet, but I don't think he's far off. I was just going to take him outside, and he moved....

So you did finally set Paulina?

Not sure what that means, if it means gave her some eggs, yes.

I've set them up in a little cage out there. She didn't attack them when they returned, so hopefully she wasn't the murderer and it was someone else. I'll keep a close eye on things, but I can't be out there all the time, I'll just have to have faith in her that'll she'll rise to her motherly duties and there won't be any more "drama".

I put the remaining egg in there, even though it's not going to hatch. The minute the chicks went in, she went back to sitting on it (she was freaking out a bit about her change of accommodation) and started clucking, so she's still in "mother mode". I'll take it out later.

We had a similar thing happen to one of the 2 chicks that came out of setting our second hen. Ours didn't survive either.

I'm sorry, it makes you feel so helpless, doesn't it?