have I created a white laced?! ha!

pastorwalt

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White laced red Cornish are an accepted variety of the Cornish breed
the dominant white gene turns the black parts of plumage white
so a bird which would otherwise be red with black lacing
becomes red laced with white
you can work it out on the chicken calculator
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html
What's a "warren"?
- Walt
 

Habibs Hens

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White laced red Cornish are an accepted variety of the Cornish breed
the dominant white gene turns the black parts of plumage white
so a bird which would otherwise be red with black lacing
becomes red laced with white
you can work it out on the chicken calculator
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html
What's a "warren"?
- Walt

a warren is similar to a RSL

RIR X Sussex (Columbian)

can also give the Columbian tail

hence called Columbian Black Tails

when no black tail then called Warren or sometimes GingerNut Ranger
 
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pastorwalt

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It would be interesting to know the genetics of the warren
in this mix. I suppose, like the RSL's here they vary quite a bit.
I would expect a RIR over light Sussex to have a black tail.
Do those that don't have black, have white?
I wonder where it comes from?
- Walt
 

kellysmall87

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My warren has a predominantly light red plumage with white wing tips and a white tipped tail, and crossed with my gold laced cockerel who has polish in him somewhere, has produced a variety of chicks. Here's the white laced chick:


And here are her/his siblings...



 

Habibs Hens

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My warren has a predominantly light red plumage with white wing tips and a white tipped tail, and crossed with my gold laced cockerel who has polish in him somewhere, has produced a variety of chicks. Here's the white laced chick:


And here are her/his siblings...





the white wing tips are more Production RED what in USA is called a Red Sex Link

they are used here in UK on Battery Farms

I have 4 Columbians Black Tails
3 Warrens
and 3 of the Prod Reds which have the white wing tips

apart from 3 black tails and 1 warren the rest of them above mentioned are ex bat rescues I have
 

Habibs Hens

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my "warren" is a prod red then? As i had her from a day old chick from a rescue centre. They rescued her from a fate as a battery hen.


ahhh that's so nice you saved her

one of my ex bats lays a lovley cream egg

its not white but not brown or pink its lovely

im so glad I have mine and helped them

I will be getting more

although I must admit the genetics on them is real confusing

I crossed a lav aruacana with them and got all white chicks

what happened to the red

its all confusing
 

kellysmall87

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I get very confused too. There's a LOT of white in them! I rescued her sister too but she got killed by a fox, and this one got bitten. I spent a lot of money and time on getting her better, so it's so nice to have her chicks now to raise. :)
I was thinking of gettng some more ex-batt but I was worried about disease etc. Plus I have an overly active cockerel who would be too much for them and not a lot of space now.
 

pastorwalt

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There are several experts on this forum who are better qualified to explain the genetics
again, I recommend Henk's calculator
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html
but here's what I would guess:
the warrens, (I think), must have the dominant white gene, which only affects the black
the lavender rooster would be black but for a double dose of the lavender gene
the chicks get the extended black from dad which would have made them all black.
but get dominant white from mom, which makes all the black parts white
if you go to the calculator and plug in a lavender male over
a red female with two dominant white genes...
(Isa Brown has only one, but you can change it in the calculator)
you would get all white chicks -split for lavender
the red is still there, at least in the males
waiting for the extended black gene to go away
- Walt
 

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