Help 3 dead and counting what to do and what is is! please help asap

[Sonoran Silkies]

Sulmet is an antibiotic as well as a coccidiastat. I think you need to call your state vet and see what is involved in getting a necropsy done. Whatever it is is moving through your flock pretty rapidly. You can also take some of the poop samples (preferably mixed together, not separate, and ask any vet to do a fecal float. That will rapidly tell you if it is worms or coccidia (make sure they know you want both looked for).

 

[ND]

I don't think it'd be ammonia if they're not currently housed in that same place. (Though, really...never say never!)

Hopefully, you should see some more improvement tomorrow. On ones I have treated, if the treatment is working, the second day (after two treatments, I was using Tylan 50 and giving it by syringe to each bird at night after they'd gone to roost), was the most noticeable improvement. Maybe VERY slight the first 24 hours... but, by the morning after the second dose, they were very much improved.


Wazine will get roundworms. It's a good thing to use if you have never dewormed them before. It won't kill any other worms.
After they get better, use the wazine as directed... and then follow that up with ivomec or safeguard about 10 days to 2 weeks later. There is ivomec pour on (for cattle) that can be dosed on their skin-- several drops (and up) depending on size of bird. Safeguard paste (horse dewormer) can be given orally... a small BB sized dose. (easiest to dispense on finger, then scrape into beak, IMO) I think you can mix ivomec INJECTABLE into drinking water, but it doesn't mix well and needs to be shaken/renewed several times a day to keep it mixed.


REALLY, really check them for lice/mites, too. I had some infested with one or the other..or both...and missed it the first times I checked. They were extremely small critters... smaller than I thought. I needed bright lighting and had to part the feathes in just the right places to search. I actually had someone hold the bird for me, hiney up in the air, so I could really part the feathers and search/look for the tiny little specks. Around the vent/up into the tail feathers was the easiest place to find them once I knew what I was looking for. Some of these can be killed using ivomec, but some don't actually suck the blood, but eat on dead skin cells and feathers. Dusting works best on those... since they don't *bite* to get dosed with systematic meds. I read in an article that listed the seriousness of the infestation by how many of the critters you could count... I think it was that if you count 5 or 6, it's considered moderately severe, etc. From what I understand, they can also take birds down pretty quickly.

Won't necessarily give you respiratory symptoms (or odd poop), but the last thing you need is something compounding the problem and draining them quicker.


AND... I'm with you... I always thought horses were finicky creatures and could kill themselves with a Q-tip! I've not had NEARLY the issues with horses all my life that I've had with chickens in a VERY short time. Guess I was terribly unlucky with them from the get go!

 

[rungirl]

Use the Ivomec. You have nothing to lose if they are dying off that fast.

 

[firefighting4u]

Well just went out there to main coop and checked hens look happy and for the first time I heard them chirp and normal chicken noises I call the one a happy chicken sound lol. And as earlier posted I lost me Yokohama roo well When I got out there he was on his side not moving and I hurries up putting him in a seperate 3x3 cage. when I picked him up he wasnt really moving at all only a grabbing slightly of his foot. When I went out to my new bird area set the cage down there as I wrote him for a loss as well and figured when I came back out in an hour to check on him and he was up walking around the whole 12x12 area he got out of the cage and was just walking around even his tail was up in the air which is a good sign to me as his tail is like 1 foot long. so hopefully this is a good sign and no another wishfull thinking but he now has to stay up with the new birds as he was loose and could have came in contact with another new bird while he was enjoying his new found area to explore.



JD: Yeah the only real problems I ever have with my shepherds are worring when their ears will come up lol and the walker heck when he got loose he is practically was on my back porch looking for me. or just looking for someone to get his alfalfa and oats from the bin.

 

[urbanfarmer101]

Try Dr Palmer in wellman ia. About 30 minutes south of Iowa city. Quad county vet. He is quite antique but will tell you straight up. Give them a call. Be polite, and remember he is a rural vet, and a gem!