Help ASAP! WHat is up with these ducklings?!?!?!?!

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With regard to the numbered 1 statement above... it is the DUTY and OBLIGATION of adults to teach their children respect for animals, proper care and management and the cold hard sad facts of life and death. Many adults fail at that duty miserably! I was taught as a child that it was unfair and cruel to allow an animal that was deformed, severely injured, in pain etc etc to suffer. That if I was to have animals it was my responsibility and obligation to do what was best and right for them...not for myself. I was also told that making the right decision regarding such choices were going to be the most difficult decision I would have to make. I cannot believe her parents have not put their foot down on this matter.

If kids are going to have animals then unfortunately they are going to deal with life and death. No one is telling Goat Walker that is easy to cull them, just the opposite had been repeated and repeated. No one has told her that she should not feel sorrow, pain or shed tears. of course we know she is taking it hard but that does not change the facts.

Regarding the numbered 2 statement... yes adults argue suffering and pain and etc etc because we are not stupid. Many of us have been on this planet long enough to have felt various pains, some more seriously than others. Why do some people refuse to get it that animals feel pain as well?

Do you think being unable to stand, walk, eat and drink is not suffering? How does Goat Walker know when they are hungry, thirsty, need to move. This is about quality of life not just being alive because someone does not have the heart to do the right thing.

She states they peep constantly....I wonder, could it because they are in distress or am I that foolish to believe such a thing? I know this...ducklings do NOT peep constantly unless something is wrong.

In the wild, were these ducklings hatched on a pond somewhere. Mama duck would have abandoned them or killed them already. The weak, deformed and sick do not survive and there is a reason for this. That does not make the mama duck a bad mama, that makes her a mama who by instinct knows they will not survive.


It completely sickens and disgusts me when someone will allow an animal to die slowly rather than man up or put their big girl panties on and do the right thing. It is easier to let them die on their own in a few days than to commit a difficult act of kindness. It is pathetic. But as long as the person can live with themselves afterwards, to each their own I guess. I could not do that. If I found myself unable to commit the act myself, I would find someone to do it for me.

It is fine to question adults, it is fine to consider their advice and come to one's own conclusions however it is not fine to allow your heart to dictate a deformed animal's fate because that is a recipe for animal cruelty which this is, in my opinion.
 
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Goat_Walker, did you have to help these guys out of the egg? Just curious, because I am having a hard time picuturing them being able to hatch out on their own.

ETA: I re-read the thread. I guess you were only there for one of the eggs while it was hatching so they must have done it on thier own. It is hard to believe that they had enough mobility.
 
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I had a duckling hatch last year from a posted egg. It had a thiamine deficiency and I was giving it vitamins- I took her to work with me and after two week when she was still flipping over I took her to the vet. My avian specialist would not put her down. I was told the duckling still had a chance and that if I wouldnt care for the duck I could serrender it so someone else could raise it. Flippy is still living in my yard and is one of my favorite ducks. She has so much character and is a lovely girl. I choose not to hatch her eggs- but am very glad I listened to the vet and increased the dosage of vitamins given as prescribed by my vet. When a duckling is hatched deficient- they need huge doses to correct the problem- not just the maintenance dose recommended on the packaging.

I also Have Regie- a duckling that hatched with a deformed hock joint. She has never been able to walk. She lives in my bedroon and although very small - is very happy. She goes outside under supervision to play in the grass and loves her bath every day. When I go to take her out of the bath- if SHE hasnt finished yet- she swims away for me- if she is ready to be taken out she swims to my hands and allows me to pick her up. She cant talk- but she is happy- and I am prepared to give her the extra attention she needs.

I have found a more local vet who will humanely put to sleep any duckling I have hatch for a very reasonable price. I could never do it myself - and actually feel responsible to care for any disabled duck I hatch - as I am the ones that put the egg into the incubator. Call me irresponsible if you want- But I believe they all at least deserve a chance.

I know these are animals we are talking about. But how many human babies are given a chance to survive when born premature costing hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical care - and still they may be left with life long health problems. Just because its an animal poeple are too quick to discount the indiviual life as insignificant just because it is only an animal. Each life is very precious and if the owner is willing to give the baby extra care or treatment while monitoring if they have a future that is worth having- then she can at least know that she has done everything possible before ending their lives.

Best of luck with your ducklings Goat walker. You will know in yourself in time what is the right thing for them.
 
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With regard to the numbered 1 statement above... it is the DUTY and OBLIGATION of adults to teach their children respect for animals, proper care and management and the cold hard sad facts of life and death. Many adults fail at that duty miserably! I was taught as a child that it was unfair and cruel to allow an animal that was deformed, severely injured, in pain etc etc to suffer. That if I was to have animals it was my responsibility and obligation to do what was best and right for them...not for myself. I was also told that making the right decision regarding such choices were going to be the most difficult decision I would have to make. I cannot believe her parents have not put their foot down on this matter.

If kids are going to have animals then unfortunately they are going to deal with life and death. No one is telling Goat Walker that is easy to cull them, just the opposite had been repeated and repeated. No one has told her that she should not feel sorrow, pain or shed tears. of course we know she is taking it hard but that does not change the facts.

Regarding the numbered 2 statement... yes adults argue suffering and pain and etc etc because we are not stupid. Many of us have been on this planet long enough to have felt various pains, some more seriously than others. Why do some people refuse to get it that animals feel pain as well?

Do you think being unable to stand, walk, eat and drink is not suffering? How does Goat Walker know when they are hungry, thirsty, need to move. This is about quality of life not just being alive because someone does not have the heart to do the right thing.

She states they peep constantly....I wonder, could it because they are in distress or am I that foolish to believe such a thing? I know this...ducklings do NOT peep constantly unless something is wrong.

In the wild, were these ducklings hatched on a pond somewhere. Mama duck would have abandoned them or killed them already. The weak, deformed and sick do not survive and there is a reason for this. That does not make the mama duck a bad mama, that makes her a mama who by instinct knows they will not survive.


It completely sickens and disgusts me when someone will allow an animal to die slowly rather than man up or put their big girl panties on and do the right thing. It is easier to let them die on their own in a few days than to commit a difficult act of kindness. It is pathetic. But as long as the person can live with themselves afterwards, to each their own I guess. I could not do that. If I found myself unable to commit the act myself, I would find someone to do it for me.

It is fine to question adults, it is fine to consider their advice and come to one's own conclusions however it is not fine to allow your heart to dictate a deformed animal's fate because that is a recipe for animal cruelty which this is, in my opinion.

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Seriously, BYC should have a "best of" section and this post by Cetawin should be at the top of the list. These are the types of threads that make BYC so tiresome for me anymore, as much as I love it here. As if people that have the courage and the brains to cull sick or deformed animals are somehow "heartless". This is another thread where I am going to have to seriously bite my tongue.

For the record, I think I culled my first animal when I was probably about 6-7 years old. Doing the compassionate thing is not always the easiest thing. Sometimes it is quite difficult, but needs to be done nonetheless. Whatever happened to breeding for strong, healthy animals? In my eyes, the truly heartless thing is to allow animals that are suffering to continue to suffer for 2 or 3 or more days. I would have also culled the eyeless duck. You have to select for animals that are strong and healthy or your flock is going to get weaker and weaker over time in subsequent generations. This is Breeding 101 and should be taught to everyone in this hobby from their initial days of breeding, regardless of whether they are 5 or 50.
 
I just wanted to say that Goat_Walker isn't a child. She is a young woman ( I don't care if she is just under 18) who is of age to make the decission to dedicate her life to her country, I'm sure she can handle deciding the fate of her ducklings when it all comes down to it. I agree, at this point I would cull them to for all the reasons mentioned. But, and I feel this towards both sides here, turning a situation that is hard for someone else into a personal cursade is IMO unhelpful. She asked for advice, not a debate or cracks about other's opinions on the subject. JMO
 
Goat Walker - I hope the vitamins work for the little ducklings. You are in my thoughts - that is a tough situation. I have never had to cull a duckling, but I've had to a little bunny and it is a very difficult thing to do. You will know if and when the time is right and the suffering is too much. Sound like your parents will be there to help you out.. that is good.
 
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I one on another site seems like the same problem yours has they treated it with vitamins Google' duckling born with head twisted around onto back', could it be due to something with turning the eggs? Good luck with them hope they get better
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Well This thread is over.

No - They dont peep constantly. Just when I talk to them or they hear me enter the room.

Every other hour, on the hour, while at home and before i go to bed they get the chance to eat and drink till they hold no interest in it.

Yes - being ducklings they do try to walk , but instead roll. SO I hold them as much as i can while helping with their necks.

Yes - I am a child. And my parents havent put their foot down yet because these are MY ducks. No one elses. The fowl on this property are mine and all decisions are made by me. If anyone ever tried to tell me how to deal with my ducks on my property or messed with my ducks on my property without my permission or in an unhelpful manner they would be run off by ME with a shotgun in hand.

But no worries everyone - Believe it or not I do know when I have to cut my own heart out and put it on my sleeve and when to take it off. Ive asked my dad to take care of these babies in the morning. And with tears in his own eyes he agreed to do it for me.
 
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I'll be thinking of you. I knew you were tough enough to do the right thing whatever you decided it should be... I'm such a sap, I'm cryin' a little for you..
 

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