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Hello Everyone, I hope you're all doing well!

I'm new to quail and birds in general, so I'm hoping to get a little bit of insight from others who may have faced a similar problem before.

I have a 4 month old California Quail who was hatched in an incubator after the nest was abandoned (the local cats got to both of the parents unfortunately). Out of all the eggs, only one hatched, so there were no other chicks around while she was in the brooder. That being said, she is almost never alone because there is almost always at least one family member, if not more, stimulating her in some way or another (she is a very beloved pet). She also loves being chased around the house as if playing hide and go seek. She's a real bundle of energy!

Strangely enough, she's been acting a little different lately, so I thought she may have been starting to get depressed since she is the only bird in the house. She's developed a habit of sitting and taking naps in the window where she can see other birds outside. Today there was some blood in her stool, so now I'm wondering if she has some kind of internal injury going on causing her pain or if there might be something else going on that I should worry about. She has been sneezing a bit lately as well (no discharge on her nose as far as I can tell, but I can see snot fly out when she sneezes) and recently she has been giving off a different (kind of sadder) sounding chirp from the usual noises she makes.

She eats a 30% protein game bird crumble starter feed, a variety of different fruits (such as red apples and seedless grapes) and vegetables (such as spinach, and cabbage) as well as sesame seeds, chia seeds, and the occasional spider that she may spot on the ground.

Today she only ate chia seeds and two ants in the morning and her feed after having the bloody stool later in the evening, no fruit or veggies and no spiders. We also played hide and go seek in the morning and she took a nap in the afternoon on a loft that we've built for her into an tree that we have indoors near the windows. Aside from her naps, she usually goes to sleep pretty consistently between 10 and 11 o'clock.

Could it be something in her diet that is causing the issue? Or is it stress from being the only bird? Some type of bird puberty?

After the bloody stool, her poop also appeared to have returned to the usual color and texture shortly after, so I'm not sure if this was some type of one off thing or a preview of what's to come.

I've heard that Coccidiosis can have bloody stools as a symptom along with not eating or drinking and other lethargic type behaviors, however, she still seems to behave as usual aside from the previously mentioned changes, so I'm not entirely sure if that's it. Should I give her some Corid anyways and see what happens, or should I try to have a more clear idea on what's going on with her first?

I've never had any type of bird before so, I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out if I should contact the vet immediately or try a home remedy of some sort. I'd really appreciate any advice on what I should do moving forward! Thank you!
 
I’m not sure on the medical side of things but It’s not healthy for them to be ok their own as they like to be in flocks. If it’s possible, adding another one or two could benefit a lot
 
I’m not sure on the medical side of things but It’s not healthy for them to be ok their own as they like to be in flocks. If it’s possible, adding another one or two could benefit a lot
Thank you so much for the tip! Do you happen to know if the sex, breed, or age of the other quails make much of a difference? I've been thinking of maybe trying to get a Coturnix, but I don't know if it would be better to try and find more Cali quail since Coturnix are a bit different.
 
A pic of the poop would help but it may have been intestinal lining sloughing off?
if its bright red then I'd worry but if it looked like strands or a piece of tissue, it's just the intestinal lining....not to worry about it...happens regularly in birds.
Also, what they have eaten can change the color of the feces, ie, red grapes, blackberries, certain squashes, cabbage and too much consumption of cereal grains.
 
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Thank you so much for the tip! Do you happen to know if the sex, breed, or age of the other quails make much of a difference? I've been thinking of maybe trying to get a Coturnix, but I don't know if it would be better to try and find more Cali quail since Coturnix are a bit different.
Cots and Cali's don't speak the same language. They may or may not get along together...if you have a way of separating them if they don't get along, then I'd give it a try.
 
Thank you so much for the tip! Do you happen to know if the sex, breed, or age of the other quails make much of a difference? I've been thinking of maybe trying to get a Coturnix, but I don't know if it would be better to try and find more Cali quail since Coturnix are a bit different.
No worries, u fortunately I wouldn’t know about that because I only ‘specialise’ in chickens but someone else commented above some tips on introducing new quail 👍🏽🙃👍🏽
 
It definitely sounds like she isn't feeling well, but it's hard to know what the reason may be. Is it possible to take her to an avian vet? Hopefully she's overcome whatever it was by now. Is she getting grit to help digest her food?

These birds can consider the humans who hand-raised them as family, so as long as someone is always with her, I'm less concerned about her feeling lonely. If sometimes she's by herself, however, she probably would get very lonely and stressed. If you get another valley quail, I suggest only one unless you can provide sample space/separation if needed, because they can become very territorial during mating season. I raised 2 females together indoors last year and they did very well together. They also accepted a male companion in the spring, but sadly we lost one of the females to egg binding a little while later, so I don't know if they would have continued to get along with a male in the mix. In our aviary, mated quail can be very aggressive to single/bachelor quail of their own sex.

As the days get shorter, reduce her exposure to light (putting her to bed earlier or turning down the house lights so she goes to sleep). Otherwise her body will think it's still summer and she'll start egg laying early. In the spring, make sure she gets extra calcium and access to sunlight for Vitamin D, which helps with calcium absorption. We now take our girl outside for at least an hour a day.

Good luck. I hope she feels better soon, if not already. ❤️
 
A pic of the poop would help but it may have been intestinal lining sloughing off?
if its bright red then I'd worry but if it looked like strands or a piece of tissue, it's just the intestinal lining....not to worry about it...happens regularly in birds.
Also, what they have eaten can change the color of the feces, ie, red grapes, blackberries, certain squashes, cabbage and too much consumption of cereal grains.
Thank you so much for the response! I had heard from a relative that used to care for chickens that it can happen from time to time with birds, so I'm glad to hear that confirmed. I think the presence of blood kind of freaked me out since I had never seen it happen before, but it was darker in color and she seems to have felt fine ever since. Thank you for helping to put my mind at ease!
 
Cots and Cali's don't speak the same language. They may or may not get along together...if you have a way of separating them if they don't get along, then I'd give it a try.
Thank you for mentioning this! I don't really have a way to separate them at the moment, so maybe I'll need to hold off on it until I do... Thank you again!
 
It definitely sounds like she isn't feeling well, but it's hard to know what the reason may be. Is it possible to take her to an avian vet? Hopefully she's overcome whatever it was by now. Is she getting grit to help digest her food?

These birds can consider the humans who hand-raised them as family, so as long as someone is always with her, I'm less concerned about her feeling lonely. If sometimes she's by herself, however, she probably would get very lonely and stressed. If you get another valley quail, I suggest only one unless you can provide sample space/separation if needed, because they can become very territorial during mating season. I raised 2 females together indoors last year and they did very well together. They also accepted a male companion in the spring, but sadly we lost one of the females to egg binding a little while later, so I don't know if they would have continued to get along with a male in the mix. In our aviary, mated quail can be very aggressive to single/bachelor quail of their own sex.

As the days get shorter, reduce her exposure to light (putting her to bed earlier or turning down the house lights so she goes to sleep). Otherwise her body will think it's still summer and she'll start egg laying early. In the spring, make sure she gets extra calcium and access to sunlight for Vitamin D, which helps with calcium absorption. We now take our girl outside for at least an hour a day.

Good luck. I hope she feels better soon, if not already. ❤️
Thank you so much for such an informative response! 😁

I did find a place near me that works with birds after a quick google search. It seems that they usually work with parrots and parakeets, but wild quail aren't super uncommon in my area, so hopefully there will be someone there who also has a little know-how with quails (assuming that there is a significant difference between the two in medical terms). I've been observing her and I haven't really noticed any major changes in behavior after the fact, so I think she's gotten through it since it hasn't happened again. I had heard that grit was made from oyster shells and was meant to aid in the egg production process... Does it also help with digestion?

I'm glad to hear that loneliness might not be as big of an issue as I thought.. She's rarely alone and pretty much grabs everyone's attention the second she comes into view, so I don't think she's too stressed out on that end. I don't have a way to separate an additional quail from her if they don't get along, so I'm thinking of holding off on it until I do. Maybe getting another female would work out though. Also, I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of one of your girls, and I appreciate you sharing!

Thank you for the information about when the days get shorter. I had no idea that I would need to put her to bed earlier, and I'll be sure to take her out for longer next spring that way she will be able to enjoy some fresh air. I really appreciate the helpful (and rather opportune) information!

Thank you so much! ❤️
 

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