HELP! DOG ATTACKED AGAIN!!

[Chelly]

Oh no - thats just horrible...
Do you have a heat lamp - sounds like they'd be better inside, or perhaps you can shut off the ac in one room? close the vents or something??

Good luck - I hope they pull through real fast.

 

[dhansen]

A friend of mine had a dog that attacked her chickens .... just once. She was so sad and mad. :: She tied the dog to a big leash and then tied the chicken to the dog's collar for 24 hours. By morning the dog was not a happy camper. He now stays clear of any and all chickens. That may not sound very nice, but it fixed the problem especially if you love your dog like you love your chickens.

 

[nccatnip]

I cannot say this works from personal experience but many dog trainers swear by it. They say that if you give a dog 2 tbsp of Syrup of Ipecac promptly after an attack, it will never do it again. The Ipecac induces vomiting so be prepared for a mess.
My theory is I know in my wild teen years, I got sick off of Cream and Kalula. I still remember the taste and have never been able to drink it again- 30 years later.
Might work and less smelly than the dead chicken on the neck.

 

[rooster-red]

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Dog barf is pretty rank too, but it would give the dog physical negative reinforcement... something easily remembered.

Otherwise its fate would be lead poisoning.

 

[mommahento5]

It is up to you about bringing the birds in the house. If you have secure place for them in the coop where they can see/be near their friends, they might be happier. But you could keep a better eye on them in the house.

Can you get some betadine (also know as provodne iodine solution-the 10% kind)? It is sold at any grocery store next to the alcohol or peroxide. It usually comes in a bottle with a flip lid that you can squirt on your birds wounds. After cleaning the wounds with clean water, give them a heavy squirt on all their wounds. It will kill any bacteria/germs and also keeps away the flies. The only thing though, it will STAIN. Don't get it on any clothes you care about. If you have light colored birds, it may stain the feathers until they molt out....but better to have stained feathers than fly-infested wounds. Good luck.

PS. If this has happened more than once by the same dog chances are that the dog is not going to be broken of this "habbit". Either the dog needs to be contained (which all responsible dog owners should do!!!), or your birds need to be better protected.

 

[Agilityscots]

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This only works if it happens instantly: i.e., the food/meat/whatever makes them sick the instant they ingest it. Think how often dogs eat stuff that makes them sick...if it's even one minute later, it won't prevent a dog from eating that food again. And it won't stop dogs who kill for the thrill of killing, which it sounds like this dog is doing.

Amy

 

[sundance]

I'm with mamahento5 Bernadine is one of the necessary items in our house for any broken skin. My husband was burned probable 25 years ago (2th & 3rd)degree and the doctors used Bernadine, it helped when nothing else did.So now I never run out of it and use it for us, and my dogs.My poodle mix gets hot spots bad so i shave her down and swab with Bernadene, I would move the chicks inside and gently pour the bernadine over them, a little extra TLC goes a long way in any hurting animal, Feeding them some yogurt and cottage cheese probably would also help, be easier to digest. keep us posted


Mother to 24 RIR. 1 pitt bull, 1 poodle mix and l yorkie

 

[dlhunicorn]

...the wounds will need to drain and so they need to be kept moist (the DE ON the birds will do nothing to keep flies away (only work when dry)...I suggest you do as Terrie Lacy suggested and bring them in>fly strike is a real danger).....
...you are stating these are deep wounds which will need to be flushed (as explained earlier with a saline solution (daily>for the wounds by the vent area you will need to do this more than once a day?) and then you can apply a triple antibiotic cream (will also keep it moist)...
Here is some info on AVIAN wound management :
http://dlhunicorn.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=practical&action=display&num=1158141893
and specifically:
http://www.worldwidewounds.com/2003/august/Cousquer/Avian-Wound-Assessment.html
excerpt summary on TREATMENT measures:
First aid
Traumatised birds often have multiple injuries and may be further compromised by dehydration, malnutrition and other problems, especially if there has been a delay (hours or days) between injury and presentation [1]. Fluid and nutritional therapy and treatment for shock are critical in the early management of all traumatised birds. Overzealous wound and fracture treatment before stabilisation of the bird may prove fatal [1]. Some first aid of the wound, however, will inevitably be required.

Wound first aid will usually be performed at the time of the initial or subsequent clinical examination. It need not be high tech but should fulfil a number of basic objectives:

Cleaning - The wound should be cleaned quickly to remove as much contamination as possible. A more thorough cleaning should await veterinary examination of the wound. This is usually performed under general anaesthetic to help minimise stress . Sterile isotonic saline (0.9%) or a solution of 0.05% chlorhexidine may be used. Care should be taken not to wet the bird excessively as this is likely to increase the risks of hypothermia.

Haemostasis - veterinary attention should be requested if there is excessive bleeding. Bleeding from most small wounds will stop following the application of a wound dressing.

Protection from dehydration - the use of a hydrogel (e.g. Intrasite) will help protect a wound. This can be covered by a vapour permeable film dressing (e.g. Opsite) to provide further protection.

Immobilisation - certain wounds may benefit from immobilisation or splinting. A figure of eight dressing can be used to immobilise the lower wing, for example, or the limb can be strapped to the body.

Analgesia and antibiotics - broad spectrum antibiotics can be provided in the first instance: clavulanic acid potentiated amoxycillin (150mg/kg orally or subcutaneously) will provide cover against most aerobes and anaerobes. Analgesia can be provided with NSAIDs (e.g. carprofen (Rimadyl)) 5mg/kg subcutaneously or intravenously. Local anaesthetics should not be used in birds due to the suggested sensitivity of birds to drugs of the procaine group "."

http://www.ronsvetsupply.com/granulexv.html
supplier of a difficult to find component described in the wound management articles ):
A "must have" product for advanced wound care. This is an over the counter, veterinary version of a prescription human product that has been used for many years to treat bed sores, deep abrasions and thermal burns. The active ingredient, Trypsin, is an enzyme that digests necrotic (dead) tissue, enabling it to be removed while at the same time, stimulating healthy epithelial cells to develop so that they can cover open or slow healing wounds. Can be used with or without bandaging. Use twice daily, washing debris away between applications. Labeled for use on dogs, cats, horses and cattle. Manufactured by Bertek

(concerning the above product...there is also a product for HORSE wounds which contains this enzyme also...might have a look at your agristore to see if they have that one...)

 

[countrygirl4513]

Thanks for all the help. They made it through the night. They have been drinking water/terrimycin, a couple are eating. Is there a stronger antibiotic I should use that's over the counter. We just got through with the morning cleansing.(I used my summers eve feminine soap, it's hypo allergenic, and mild) NO maggots as of yet. I will pick up some betadine, I had thought of this last night. I hoping that they will pull through with me cleaning the wounds regular. But my Brahma hen is the worst of all. The dog nailed her near the vent and it is damaged slightly, she oozes feces etc. She is the one I'm most concerned with. The DE I'm using on them is not on the wound itself, more of a light dust on the rest of the body. And it is helping with the flys, I've only seen 1, in the hen house. As long as I can keep them at bay I am hopeful that the maggots won't come.
Any more advice is more than welcomed.
The dog... can't be sure but I told her I wanted him dead! She won't do that but is gonna take him off to a family member 20 miles away. If she had taken care of this crap when the first attack happened I wouldn't be in this present hell. The dog is a nuisance to say the least. I've never wanted harm on any animal, but I would take great pleasure in choking the life out of this dog!

 

[Katy]

I haven't used it, but was told that BluKote...for horses....is good for spraying on their wounds. Keeps the flies off, but lets the wounds drain. I believe you can get it at TSC, Orschelns...farm supply stores.

I agree about the dog....he'd be history here.......and I love dogs, but once they get the taste it's nearly impossible to get them not to do it.