Help... failure to thrive?

[Kiki]

No, I didn't see that post. But still, even if someone was dipping the newly hatched chicks beaks in a solution of coccidia, the coccidia HAS to complete at least one life cycle to cause intestinal damage. They simply cannot show signs of coccidia earlier than that.

There are different strains of Coccidiosis that damage different parts of the "body".

 

[BlueShadow]

Okay. But she already treated these birds once for coccidia.

 

[Kiki]

The oocyst sprorulates (develops so that it becomes infective) in as little as 24 hours under optimum conditions (a humid environment at 25-30ºC).

http://www.chickenvet.co.uk/health-and-common-diseases/coccidiosis/index.aspx

 

[Kiki]

Okay. But she already treated these birds once for coccidia.

No she didn't treat them correctly/proper.

 

[PolarBerry]

Coccidiosis caused by E. tenella first becomes noticeable at about three days after infection. Chickens droop, stop feeding, huddle together,

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex4616

The first one that passed was when it was 3 days old. The fact I called the hatchery and told them all the symptoms and they said "yep, coccidia" and that corrid can't hurt at this point means I'll try it. Even if me just forcing fluids and giving yolks is what pulls them through I'll do it.

I used to work for a vet and wish I was able to send some slides or something since I know he'd diagnose them for free. Too bad he's like 3000 miles away... I do have some dissection tools from anatomy class, if another one dies I may open him up to see. Only issue is I don't know what's normal and what's not since I don't have a comparison. But I'm sure if I took good pictures someone on here could help.

My other concern is assuming some of these guys survive, will I be able to get more chicks/keets in the spring without a rehash of all the dying off? (Assuming I get healthy chicks to start).

 

[Kiki]

The first one that passed was when it was 3 days old. The fact I called the hatchery and told them all the symptoms and they said "yep, coccidia" and that corrid can't hurt at this point means I'll try it. Even if me just forcing fluids and giving yolks is what pulls them through I'll do it.

I used to work for a vet and wish I was able to send some slides or something since I know he'd diagnose them for free. Too bad he's like 3000 miles away... I do have some dissection tools from anatomy class, if another one dies I may open him up to see. Only issue is I don't know what's normal and what's not since I don't have a comparison. But I'm sure if I took good pictures someone on here could help.

My other concern is assuming some of these guys survive, will I be able to get more chicks/keets in the spring without a rehash of all the dying off? (Assuming I get healthy chicks to start).

Keep Corid on hand.

 

[PolarBerry]

So any new flock members treat pre-emptively with corrid or feed medicated starter feed? I figured as much.

If it is E. tenella I've already hit the 50% mortality...

 

[Kiki]

So any new flock members treat pre-emptively with corrid or feed medicated starter feed? I figured as much.

If it is E. tenella I've already hit the 50% mortality...

If you ask me..I am not a fan of the medicated feed.
You know what to look for now so I would wait for the very first sign and use Corid.

 

[PolarBerry]

*Knocks on wood* so it's been slightly over 12 hours with everyone still looking chipper. Had one looking sleepy earlier but forcing fluids several times seemed to at least help some. A few of the guineas are runty but hopefully haven't jinxed myself.

 

[PolarBerry]

All made it through the night. Yay! (Knocks on wood/crosses fingers and toes just because)

My only concern now is the half of the guineas with diarrhea. I cleaned pasty butts to prevent backing up but they have poo smeared all over their behinds again, except they're still seemingly able to poop... it just kind of dribbles out. I'll try rinsing them lightly (it's past cotton ball cleanup) and drying with a hair dryer. Would neosporin or diaper rash cream help more? I know personally when I've had chafing after a long hike or whatnot that the diaper cream works like a miracle to take away redness and pain.

I gave them egg yolk this morning first thing with a light dusting of corid powder on it. I'll clean all their bums up here in a few and probably get them some more corid directly or at the very least some water drops into all of the guineas. I constantly see the turkeys drinking and all eating... the guineas are harder to keep track of.

I'm assuming the turkeys are feeling better. Less huddling and more trying to fly. But the hatchery told me the turkeys usually fare through coccidia slightly better than the smaller birds.