Help! Lethargic hen, not eating!

[shadow rabbit10]

 They will drink the treated water as long as it is their sole source of water to drink. Make a fresh batch daily and leave it out all day for them to drink. You can change it out after they've gone in the coop for the night, they'll be thirsty and ready to drink it the next morning like you stated. No need to use powdered milk if you're using corid. Powdered milk is used as a temporary treatment for cocci until corid or a sulfa drug can be purchased for treatment....it really depends which cocci strain(s) is/are affecting them.

The waterer is my hens' only source of water (with the exception of small puddles they find around the yard, but I am going to avoid free ranging them during treatment). I always change my water every morning anyways.
For how long should I discard the eggs? 2 weeks?

 

[shadow rabbit10]

Corid dosing:
http://www.corid.com/Pages/WaterTankAdminTreatment.aspx

-Kathy

Thanks!

 

[YourEggs]

I am not sure about egg discarding. My husband found this website:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2919391/

It talks about residue from Amprolium which we understand to be similar or the same as Corid? According to this website the residue levels are way below acceptable standards for consumption. So would you have to discard the eggs? Anyone with other websites to confirm or contrast this would be greatly appreciated, as I have seen both opinions in the forums. Thanks

I have only had my girls and one guy (who is in his own space for three weeks now), the ladies needed to grow their feathers back, for a year, totally new to the experience but two weeks ago I found one of my Buffs dead off the roost in the morning no pecking, no mites, no red spots, wheezing, runny nose. Just feather loss from the main squeeze. I did notice that there were some runny mustard looking poops in the yard along with some clear white runny poops and every now and then I would see a formed poop with a tinge of blood in the white, but everyone (21 after the buff died looked fine and acted well). Then I started to see egg production drop off. I am only getting between 5 and 11 eggs a day with about two that are thin shelled or no shell. I have always given them ACV, everyday without fail. Today one of my Brahmas was on the roost gasping for air, lethargic. I quarantined her but it was to late within 2 hours she was dead. Looked her over from head to toe and once again she looks clean no discharge from her eyes or beak. After reading a lot of the forums here at BYC I do believe it is coccidiosis because of the poops and egg loss. We are normally pretty dry here but have had a lot of rain which could stir up any parasite. Plus I made the mistake of coming home from the county fair and heading straight out to collect eggs, I forgot to change out of my shoes and into my boots so who knows what I could have dragged in, dumb mistake!

Hope you do not mind me sharing my issue on your forum post Shadow Rabbit10 just thought it would be easier than starting yet another forum post on coccidiosis.

If anyone has the answer about the eggs I am interested too. I will shut up now! <*)

 

[shadow rabbit10]

I am not sure about egg discarding. My husband found this website:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2919391/

It talks about residue from Amprolium which we understand to be similar or the same as Corid? According to this website the residue levels are way below acceptable standards for consumption. So would you have to discard the eggs? Anyone with other websites to confirm or contrast this would be greatly appreciated, as I have seen both opinions in the forums. Thanks

I have only had my girls and one guy (who is in his own space for three weeks now), the ladies needed to grow their feathers back, for a year, totally new to the experience but two weeks ago I found one of my Buffs dead off the roost in the morning no pecking, no mites, no red spots, wheezing, runny nose. Just feather loss from the main squeeze. I did notice that there were some runny mustard looking poops in the yard along with some clear white runny poops and every now and then I would see a formed poop with a tinge of blood in the white, but everyone (21 after the buff died looked fine and acted well). Then I started to see egg production drop off. I am only getting between 5 and 11 eggs a day with about two that are thin shelled or no shell. I have always given them ACV, everyday without fail. Today one of my Brahmas was on the roost gasping for air, lethargic. I quarantined her but it was to late within 2 hours she was dead. Looked her over from head to toe and once again she looks clean no discharge from her eyes or beak. After reading a lot of the forums here at BYC I do believe it is coccidiosis because of the poops and egg loss. We are normally pretty dry here but have had a lot of rain which could stir up any parasite. Plus I made the mistake of coming home from the county fair and heading straight out to collect eggs, I forgot to change out of my shoes and into my boots so who knows what I could have dragged in, dumb mistake!

Hope you do not mind me sharing my issue on your forum post Shadow Rabbit10 just thought it would be easier than starting yet another forum post on coccidiosis.

If anyone has the answer about the eggs I am interested too. I will shut up now! <*)

Oh no, it's fine! I too came home from the county fair two weeks ago... I have a feeling the stress may have weakened my bird's immune system. I have always heard that any eggs from a medicated bird should be thrown away, but I could be wrong... I know wormer requires the eggs to be discarded for 14 days. You say your birds were gasping for air? I don't remember abnormal breathing being a symptom for cocci, but the bloody poop and behaviors of your birds match the symptoms... Today I talked to a chicken breeder who works at TSC and he said heavy rainfall breeds cocci. If you say you've had heavy rainfall, that's probably part of the reason you got it. Cocci is normally unheard of in my area (except in chicks), but the TSC and feed store workers said that there has been an outbreak this year due to excessive rainfall. Hopefully the medication will work for you.

 

[cafarmgirl]

What I read in that link was that residual amprolium levels in the yolk did NOT exceed US tolerance levels. As you said, they are BELOW acceptable standards, not above, so eggs are fine for consumption.

All Amprolium is, is a thiamin blocker. So eating eggs from treated chickens is not going to have any effect on the person consuming them. Now if you were to consume large quantities of Amprolium yourself then I suppose you could develop a thiamin deficiency! Not a likely scenario!

 

[dawg53]

What I read in that link was that residual amprolium levels in the yolk did NOT exceed US tolerance levels. As you said, they are BELOW acceptable standards, not above, so eggs are fine for consumption.

All Amprolium is, is a thiamin blocker. So eating eggs from treated chickens is not going to have any effect on the person consuming them. Now if you were to consume large quantities of Amprolium yourself then I suppose you could develop a thiamin deficiency! Not a likely scenario!

x2
There is no egg withdrawal using corid. As stated by Cafarmgirl, it's a thiamine blocker, not an antibiotic.

 

[shadow rabbit10]

What I read in that link was that residual amprolium levels in the yolk did NOT exceed US tolerance levels. As you said, they are BELOW acceptable standards, not above, so eggs are fine for consumption.

All Amprolium is, is a thiamin blocker. So eating eggs from treated chickens is not going to have any effect on the person consuming them. Now if you were to consume large quantities of Amprolium yourself then I suppose you could develop a thiamin deficiency! Not a likely scenario!

x2
There is no egg withdrawal using corid. As stated by Cafarmgirl, it's a thiamine blocker, not an antibiotic.

Thanks for the info!

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[YourEggs]

Thank you all for the information on the eggs. We are going to continue to enjoy the few that are being produced and hopefully there will be more as they recover.

I would say rain, rain go away... But we have been in drought conditions for many years now and desperately need the moisture. I think the gasping from my Brahma was probably dehydration and I think with coccidiosis their little bodies stop absorbing nutrients, so she probably was having a slow death like a human would if they were dehydrated.

I have started the slow and large process of cleaning out their yards of poop to try and prevent more contamination, some of the ladies may not have been infected which means later down the road they could pick it up. Their coop is kept clean with Simple Green virtually all the time and I pick up their poop every day in the coop. I do think I will do a scrub down with ammonia on day 5 or so as I read bleach does not get rid of coccidiosis residue.

Thank you Shadow Rabbit10 for allowing me to share your forum post. Keep us informed on how your girls are recovering and I will do the same.

 

[YourEggs]

Cafarmgirl and dawg53 thank you for the info. Can you please confirm that Amprolium is the same as Corid (a Thiamine blocker). Since it is Corid that we are giving for treatment. Thanks again.

 

[ten chicks]

Cafarmgirl and dawg53 thank you for the info. Can you please confirm that Amprolium is the same as Corid (a Thiamine blocker). Since it is Corid that we are giving for treatment. Thanks again.

Corid is the brand name,Amprolium is the medication. Yes, it is the same.