help!!!!! very urgent!!!!!! possibly internal pip gone wrong!!!!!

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Knowing ‘when’ is such a fine line. But helping remotely is tough too. I would open it enough just to peek inside. I wouldn’t remove very much of the shell covering the air cell just yet.
 

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Knowing ‘when’ is such a fine line. But helping remotely is tough too. I would open it enough just to peek inside. I wouldn’t remove very much of the shell covering the air cell just yet.
 

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Ok WVduckchicks....I stopped!! I dabbed a little vaseline on membrane and blood vessels lit up.
What does this mean?

That’s still a good bit of veins, so it’s not ready yet. Just oil up as much of the membrane that you can reach with the q-tip back inside there. Just a thin coat, not globby. And let it rest a while longer.
 
That’s still a good bit of veins, so it’s not ready yet. Just oil up as much of the membrane that you can reach with the q-tip back inside there. Just a thin coat, not globby. And let it rest a while longer.
Ok, thanks. Do I need to change temp now that theres a big hole in shell?? Also, does the membrane look ok since its wrinkled? I just dont want her to suffocate (obviously) Thanks so much for Everything
 
No need to change the temp.

You could try to feel around in there and see if you feel anything hard, which should be the beak.
Did you see any rip in the membrane?
 
I don't see any tears but see something black pushing up. Cant tell what it is Doesnt really feel hard
 

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ok there are still some pretty good veins which need to recede, so just keep the membrane moist and watch for those veins to start to disappear.
Sounds good, thanks. I think I Possibly felt a bill, or a foot, but was more firm than anything else. I was scared to touch too much. I guess I was expecting an orange bill.....but what I felt that was firm was more black. This is a Welsh Harlequin / Pekin mix, so we'll see.
Oh, and yes, I believe I did notice alot of fluid in their with her. Of course, I dont know what the norm is, but theres definately some
 
Sounds good, thanks. I think I Possibly felt a bill, or a foot, but was more firm than anything else. I was scared to touch too much. I guess I was expecting an orange bill.....but what I felt that was firm was more black. This is a Welsh Harlequin / Pekin mix, so we'll see.
Oh, and yes, I believe I did notice alot of fluid in their with her. Of course, I dont know what the norm is, but theres definately some
Well, nevermind, neither their feet, nor their beak are black as a newborn so, heck, I dont know what I see. I better get some rest.
 

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