Help with chick colours

[muddy75]

what's the difference between tibetan and rosetta? how do you recognise them?

Also re italian how do you feather sex them?

thanks in advance

My best description of the difference between Rosetta and Tibetan is that Rosetta appears to have “lacing” and you feather sex Italians and other feather-sexable colors by spots on breast for hens and solid breast usually red/bronze for males

 

[Fenrisulfr]

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The two Tuxedos are Tibetan, nearly black... the one on the right is a Rosetta, a bit redish brown.

Haha ... didn't relized, that Holly, my pure Tibetan, is hidding under the ramp on this photo ...she is 99% black. ... good camoflage

 

[Pjvm]

Another question, what's the difference between golden, golden speckled, Italian and Manchurian?

 

[Fenrisulfr]

Gold is Manchurian and Gold speckeled is Italian ... same.

I am still a bit unsure for the english namings. In Germany the gene factor is called "Gold", I think in english it is "Fawn"

Manchurian is a homozygotous Gold/Fawn, whereas Italian is heterozygotous Gold/Fawn with Pharaoh/Wildpattern.
As the inheritance of the Gold/Fawn factor is intermediate (incomplete) dominat, it mixes with the recessive inheritance of Wild/Pharaoh factor to Goldspeckeled/Italian.

Refer to Mendel's experiments: red and white pea blossoms which heritate in the F1 generation to 100% pink blossoms heterozygotous . In the F2 generation you get then 50% pink (Goldspeckeled/Italians heterozygotous) 25% white (Gold/Manchurian homozygotous) and 25% red (Wildtype/Pharaoh homozygotous).

Uhh ... guess that's more you asked

 

[Pjvm]

Gold is Manchurian and Gold speckeled is Italian ... same.

I am still a bit unsure for the english namings. In Germany the gene factor is called "Gold", I think in english it is "Fawn"

Manchurian is a homozygotous Gold/Fawn, whereas Italian is heterozygotous Gold/Fawn with Pharaoh/Wildpattern.
As the inheritance of the Gold/Fawn factor is intermediate (incomplete) dominat, it mixes with the recessive inheritance of Wild/Pharaoh factor to Goldspeckeled/Italian.

Refer to Mendel's experiments: red and white pea blossoms which heritate in the F1 generation to 100% pink blossoms heterozygotous . In the F2 generation you get then 50% pink (Goldspeckeled/Italians heterozygotous) 25% white (Gold/Manchurian homozygotous) and 25% red (Wildtype/Pharaoh homozygotous).

Uhh ... guess that's more you asked

Thanks. Great info.

 

[Pjvm]

Gold is Manchurian and Gold speckeled is Italian ... same.

I am still a bit unsure for the english namings. In Germany the gene factor is called "Gold", I think in english it is "Fawn"

Manchurian is a homozygotous Gold/Fawn, whereas Italian is heterozygotous Gold/Fawn with Pharaoh/Wildpattern.
As the inheritance of the Gold/Fawn factor is intermediate (incomplete) dominat, it mixes with the recessive inheritance of Wild/Pharaoh factor to Goldspeckeled/Italian.

Refer to Mendel's experiments: red and white pea blossoms which heritate in the F1 generation to 100% pink blossoms heterozygotous . In the F2 generation you get then 50% pink (Goldspeckeled/Italians heterozygotous) 25% white (Gold/Manchurian homozygotous) and 25% red (Wildtype/Pharaoh homozygotous).

Uhh ... guess that's more you asked

So the first is Manchurian and the second gold speckled? Are they both female?

 

[Fenrisulfr]

Both pics are equal ...

 

[Fenrisulfr]

But here to compare:

Italian ...

Manchurian...

As far as I figured out . .. Golden/Manchurian/Italian Golden are all homozygotious Fawn

Golden Speckled/Italian are heterozygotous Fawn

 

[Pjvm]

Both pics are equal ...

Sorry

 

[Fenrisulfr]

The last is an Italian, and looks like a female. Very few spots on the chest, but I have also a female, this small spotted.

But to be honest, the first and second ( I guess it is the same) looks strange ... part Manchurian, part Silver

I cannot tell.