help with ducks in incubator

Wanted to let everyone know...I now have two that are pipping!!!!! maybe I wasnt to late for everyone. I am still having trouble with humidity but for now it just might keep some alive...Thanks to all for the help!!!
 
When I started I had a very wet washcloth in a plastic bowl and it went up to 60% plus and stayed too high even after I rung it out. I assumed it was due to the larger surface area which is why I qucikly switched to what was once a vegan cheese plastic shaker with ~3 holes in the top so the water would evaporate slower and be more stable. It worked well. To get humidity back up tomorrow for days 24-26, I will either go back to the washcloth in plastic bowl or use a sponge or two on floor where I can add water through the air vent if I need to quickly increase humidity. Thanks for tip about floor, I will add the mesh drawer liner before lockdown. Good luck. This is so fun but nerve-wracking.
 
Just behind you; on day 23 of 26 for one abandoned mallard egg in a homemade 11 by 17" styrofoam incubator. I candled egg last night and there is still some movement & increased air cell but I don't see internal pip. I assume should go into lockdown tomorrow anyway. Duckling seems small & is near air cell with yolk & albumin at small end (duckling is ~ same size as those liquids). Have kept air cell end slightly raised. Temp has been ~100 & humidity (via washcloth in plastic jug with sprinkler holes at top) 50 to 60% usually 55 but last week keeping closer to 45 to 50 since air cell seemed too small. I'm reading lockdown temp should drop to 98 and humidity up to 65%, 75%, 85%, (or close to 100% which sounds wrong). I have 2 small vent holes diameter just larger than pencil and assume should add 2 more tonight. Looking for advice on lockdown temp, humidity, air vents and flooring - should egg be directly on styrofoam, be on soft mesh shelf liner or does that prevent rolling, or should it be on dry washcloth (it has been in cotton & feathers). I added to this forum since info could help both of us.


What kind of ducks? Keep your humidity around 60-65 for lock down. 75 is pushing 85-100 will kill them. I know I locked 10 call ducks down at 80% because it's what I had read on the internet when I first started and I can tell you all 10 died..

Do you have a a still or air still should be around 101-102 air should be at 99-100..so I would t even change the temp. Just adjust the humidity.
 
Thx for posting. My biggest problem is humidity. I cannot get it high enough no matter what. This afternoon I got it to 62 but it is dropping again. Your question was about the floor. I have a drawer liner in mine when I start lockdown. This keeps the little feet from slipping. Good luck with yours. Hopefully I will have a little one tonite.


That is perfect or wired flooring'. They have to be able to use there toes for gripping until they learn how to use those big flabby feet. Once they are out supply them with niacin- vitamin b3, my preference is poultry drench with one pill of vitamin b complete.
 
I have a thin piece of foam that came either in a shoebox or package or frame that I put over the glass at the top of my stryrofoam incubator when first started using it. It seemed to help stabalize the temp & humidity and I lift it when I want to look in. I also have my incubator inside a fuzzy cat bed at the bottom and a canvas box with foam peanuts to get the temp to 100 or sometimes 101 with only a 5 watt bulb from a jack-o-lantern. From the prior advice on this thread, it does not sound like I need to turn the temp down for lockdown. It might drop a little anyway with extra humidity and I can leave the foam over glass open more if needed. Some people online were saying to drop temp to 98.5 for duck lockdown but I am not sure why. I should be able to keep humidity 60 to 65% during lockdown since it got up that high in past and I had to manually fan it out (still air incubator).
Tonight I washed off the mesh shelf liner and it made the humidity too high since it was still damp so I am letting it dry outside incubator and will put back in before lockdown. I saw earlier someone said a syringe or rubbercapped dropper could be used to add water without opening the lid. I added water in past by running hot water to fill up a thin straw with a bend and then insert that in the vent hole. I was practicing for lockdown and it would raise humidity, but I might see if I have a dropper to make sure more of the water goes in during lockdown. I ordered some plant based no dye sponges online that are not here yet so I might have to use a new ocelo pink sponge - that hopefully doesn't cause probablems. Tonight for the first time I tried floating the egg in glass of warm water quickly and it would move when I would talk to it. It also moved when I candled it with a flashlight and talked to it. The humidity goes down quickly in my incubator when the top is off so I try to make openings quick; it usually goes back up slowly afterward.
 
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I have a thin piece of foam that came either in a shoebox or package or frame that I put over the glass at the top of my stryrofoam incubator when first started using it. It seemed to help stabalize the temp & humidity and I lift it when I want to look in. I also have my incubator inside a fuzzy cat bed at the bottom and a canvas box with foam peanuts to get the temp to 100 or sometimes 101 with only a 5 watt bulb from a jack-o-lantern. From the prior advice on this thread, it does not sound like I need to turn the temp down for lockdown. It might drop a little anyway with extra humidity and I can leave the foam over glass open more if needed. Some people online were saying to drop temp to 98.5 for duck lockdown but I am not sure why. I should be able to keep humidity 60 to 65% during lockdown since it got up that high in past and I had to manually fan it out (still air incubator).
Tonight I washed off the mesh shelf liner and it made the humidity too high since it was still damp so I am letting it dry outside incubator and will put back in before lockdown. I saw earlier someone said a syringe or rubbercapped dropper could be used to add water without opening the lid. I added water in past by running hot water to fill up a thin straw with a bend and then insert that in the vent hole. I was practicing for lockdown and it would raise humidity, but I might see if I have a dropper to make sure more of the water goes in during lockdown. I ordered some plant based no dye sponges online that are not here yet so I might have to use a new ocelo pink sponge - that hopefully doesn't cause probablems. Tonight for the first time I tried floating the egg in glass of warm water quickly and it would move when I would talk to it. It also moved when I candled it with a flashlight and talked to it. The humidity goes down quickly in my incubator when the top is off so I try to make openings quick; it usually goes back up slowly afterward.
I know some people will tell you to drop the temp and I have NO CLUE why either, I have NEVER EVER touched my temp. I have only made adjustments to the humidity. To me it doesn't make sense to drop the temp, because as we all know, lowering the temp will cause late hatchings, so why do it? Doesn't make any sense, but I think people will say that because perhaps it works for them, everyone has there own way of hatching so it's just advice to consider, doesn't mean we have to use it, just there to be considered.

Opening the bator to add water isn't going to hurt those eggs. I know, I have tested this theory, I treated my eggs just as if I was hand turning them, I didn't change not ONE single thing. Left temp the same, humidity was at 50-55, yes, I did not raise it for lock down, treated all the eggs as if I was still in the process, Opened the bator three times a day as if I was hand turning them and guess, what no affect what so ever. Eggs didn't shrink wrap, they didn't get to cold and delay and hatched perfectly FINE. So if you need to add water during Lockdown and understand Lockdown was invented for US, not chickens or ducks. It's a way to keep us from bothering the eggs nothing more. But if you need to add water during lockdown, Do it, It's OK, it's not going to affect those eggs. The only thing I would suggest before doing so it turn everything off. Turn the bator completely off, open the lid, add your water and turn everything back on when your done.

Why would you do the Float test? The float test from what I understand is usually done AFTER the due date to see if they are still alive or not. Personally. I am not a huge fan of the float test and just can't see dunking Live birds in water, doesn't sound logic to me. I have candle, with a good candler you can really get the full affect as to where your at. I have never kept track of my chicken eggs and now I don't even keep track of my duck eggs unless they are shipped. I can tell when they are three days before hatching because the eggs will start to dip..
 
I have a thin piece of foam that came either in a shoebox or package or frame that I put over the glass at the top of my stryrofoam incubator when first started using it. It seemed to help stabalize the temp & humidity and I lift it when I want to look in. I also have my incubator inside a fuzzy cat bed at the bottom and a canvas box with foam peanuts to get the temp to 100 or sometimes 101 with only a 5 watt bulb from a jack-o-lantern. From the prior advice on this thread, it does not sound like I need to turn the temp down for lockdown. It might drop a little anyway with extra humidity and I can leave the foam over glass open more if needed. Some people online were saying to drop temp to 98.5 for duck lockdown but I am not sure why. I should be able to keep humidity 60 to 65% during lockdown since it got up that high in past and I had to manually fan it out (still air incubator).
Tonight I washed off the mesh shelf liner and it made the humidity too high since it was still damp so I am letting it dry outside incubator and will put back in before lockdown. I saw earlier someone said a syringe or rubbercapped dropper could be used to add water without opening the lid. I added water in past by running hot water to fill up a thin straw with a bend and then insert that in the vent hole. I was practicing for lockdown and it would raise humidity, but I might see if I have a dropper to make sure more of the water goes in during lockdown. I ordered some plant based no dye sponges online that are not here yet so I might have to use a new ocelo pink sponge - that hopefully doesn't cause probablems. Tonight for the first time I tried floating the egg in glass of warm water quickly and it would move when I would talk to it. It also moved when I candled it with a flashlight and talked to it. The humidity goes down quickly in my incubator when the top is off so I try to make openings quick; it usually goes back up slowly afterward.
I have to make one small comment and I hope you don't get offended but I just think your looking into this to much. I mean, some of the things make sense but some are really unnecessary, hatching is real basic, there's really one RULE you need to keep in mind at that is WWW. (Warmth, Wetness, Wait)
 
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Thanks for all the information....I know now it was a humidity factor...when i did all of your suggestions and raised the humidity one of the other ones started to pip. It is out and doing fine. the other one is in bad shape and I dont know what to do. It has been out of the egg for 24 hours and it still will not or can not stand. Its leg is shaking. it is not splayed leg, I have seen that before. I am not sure what to do..She is chirping and it is so sad.
I have learned alot from you and I am grateful.
 

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