don't mean to highjack Blue's thread but have pictures, will try to post, ok, failed at that. But have 4 lavender chicks, beautiful & smart. Waited until this am to remove them from bator, have 18 eggs still in there & they were knocking things around. Sally Sunshine, you were pretty smart, you knew they wouldn't be fluffy last night, I did wait. I got the brooder all set up, preheated the Brinsea & waited until the temp was at 95 to move them. Put them under the brooder, they have been moving in & out, mostly hanging out at the edge but appear comfortable & moving around. I have a light in addition to the brinsea, temp holding at 95+. They sleep then move around & sleep some more, I know those experienced hatchers know this but it's new to me & I just think it is so cool. Everyone I work with knows my chickens by name & Fudge is our office chicken, although she has only appeared there in photos. The one I helped out is huge, I don't think he would have zipped without help but that is a tough call. Thanks again for help, P