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Who knows what he is made from - a lot of really great, loving and sweet mixes can look like Flatties. He’s very handsome, but the head, muzzle and ear set aren’t quite Flatcoat. But a strong blend can change any trait. A golden retriever and a black lab mix often look like Flatcoats, which isn’t too surprising since most early literature says that the first Goldens were actually yellow Flatcoats, a fluke in a pure bred litter that turned out to be a gift for generations of people. I’ve seen Newfoundland mixes that strongly resemble Flatties, and a border collie/black lab that had me fooled the first time I ever saw her. She was fantastic, too! Flatcoats as a breed are very strongly protected....most breeders won’t part with one until the new owner signs a spay/neuter contract and then provides irrefutable proof that it has been done, along with references before they’ll even talk puppies with a potential new owner. At least that’s the way it used to be. They aren’t inexpensive, either, not even back over 20 years ago when I had them.
 
@Welshies, congrats on the pups. Question for you... why do you have unspayed and unneutered dogs?
We only have one unspayed dog. One dog.
As stated, we wanted two litters out of her. She is the best dog we've ever had. One in a million.
As also stated, we are spaying her after this litter. We planned for her to have two litters.
All this was previously explained :rolleyes::)
 
We only have one unspayed dog. One dog.
As stated, we wanted two litters out of her. She is the best dog we've ever had. One in a million.
As also stated, we are spaying her after this litter. We planned for her to have two litters.
All this was previously explained :rolleyes::)
Sorry, couldn't keep up with all the posts, and I figured since you posted a picture of the Mastiff that he was yours. Is the Mastiff your dog?
 
We also live on a farm and breed livestock and other animals for a living :)
And nope, it's a neighbours.
I live in an area where no one believes in spaying, neutering, or gelding. Guess it's kind of a pet peeve of mine. Every time someone rides by my house at least one person is on some poorly bred crooked-legged horse.
 
I live in an area where no one believes in spaying, neutering, or gelding. Guess it's kind of a pet peeve of mine. Every time someone rides by my house at least one person is on some poorly bred crooked-legged horse.
I'm sorry, but as someone who has lost two wonderful dogs, purebred, without having the chance to breed them, I take exception at that. Dogs are family to most, and wanting to keep their lines going is natural! Also, I'm planning on getting Maremma's, a specialty LGD bred for two thousand years to protect Livestock. I'm saving penny's to try to afford a female and male from good lines, not just for myself, but so that the many people around me, who are in a similar situation and are desperate to get protection for their chickens/Livestock, but can't afford the high (but worth it) price of Maremma's, will be able to get them from me for a small price or trade! Or, if they really can't afford it and can take care of them, then perhaps free. I'll rescue any dog, any day! I've rescued SIX and 4 cats since I've been married and in a stable home. I understand people wanting animals rescued, but it's the owners choice, and many have food reasons!
 
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I live in an area where no one believes in spaying, neutering, or gelding. Guess it's kind of a pet peeve of mine. Every time someone rides by my house at least one person is on some poorly bred crooked-legged horse.
That's also a pet peeve of mine. We are very on top of that kind of thing, only breeding the best quality animals. And even though, as stated, we wanted a purebred lab litter (her heat snuck up on us while away), there is nothing we can do and we agreed to spay her after 2 litters.
I agree though. Backyard breeding is a pet peeve of mine.
 
That's also a pet peeve of mine. We are very on top of that kind of thing, only breeding the best quality animals. And even though, as stated, we wanted a purebred lab litter (her heat snuck up on us while away), there is nothing we can do and we agreed to spay her after 2 litters.
I agree though. Backyard breeding is a pet peeve of mine.
Was her first litter purebred?
 

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