Hen with sour crop? - black drippy foul-smelling liquid when vomitted

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Hello all,
It is Christmas Eve and I am worried about my dear, beloved lavender orpington hen, Agnes! I have been noticing her acting lethargic and solitary the past few days, with no appetite, more napping than usual. She wasn't touching scratch or pellets/crumble... only pecking at the dirt and grass half-heartedly. She is seeming to lose weight. Her comb and wattle have gone pale, and she's lost her spunk. She looks wobbly on her legs, is too easy to catch, and when I set her down collapses onto the ground. She was slow to come out of the hen house today, which is very unusual - usually she is top dog. She has also had a dark/bright green diarrhea streaked on her bottom, with some dried on green droppings dangling. Twice I brought her into the house for a warm bath, concerned that it could be a stuck egg (she has never started laying... is about 8 months old and usually a very large, strong hed). I isolated her and got her to eat a tiny bit of egg + shell + yogurt 2 days ago, and since then she won't eat anything. I finally brought her into the house tonight and tried giving her her favorite... a strawberry with some cooked egg. She wouldn't even taste it. I am so worried about her. I saw a youtube video about massaging the crop and vomiting the chicken, in case something is wrong with the crop. I did that to her and black liquid vomit dripped from her mouth - it was very foul smelling. I turned her right side up and poured some water + ACV over her beak to get her to drink some liquid. I'm concerned that she could be dehydrated, as I haven't seen her drink. I currently have her in a cage in the house where she is resting listlessly on a towel, under a heatlamp. I'm guessing that the foul odor means that she has sour crop? Is there anything else that I can do for her? I can't find anything about black liquid dripping vomit... has anyone seen that before? Is it something more serious than sour crop? I am so worried about her... hoping to get some advice for other more seasoned hen friends. More info: she is part of an original flock of 5 pullets, and I added 2 younger pullets about 2 weeks ago... they've adjusted pretty easily. The flock goes out early in the AM and free range in the yard (Sonoma County, Northern CA) all day, and also have access to a protected run and their hen house (which I clean almost daily). They eat fresh greens from the garden, grass, and get a mix of organic crumble/pellets + veggies scraps + a few handfuls of "treats" like scratch and seeds each day. They have access to plenty of clean water from multiple sources. Is there something that I did that caused this? All of the other chickens seem healthy and fine, though do seem to be acting protectively towards her. I found her in the hen house in the corner, surrounded by the other hens. I think we are all very worried. Hoping she will recover! What can I do??
 
I had this same experience with one of my chickens a while ago. I had no idea what was wrong with her until I picked her up and she vomited very smelly black fluid. I assume it was sour crop all along and I didn't know about it. But she died that same night. I know that's not good news, but I don't know if once it turns that black and smelly if there's much you can do. But maybe you were able to go onto one of those suggested threads and someone can help you better. I hope she gets better! :D
 
Crop issues are serious and they certainly won't all recover -- but at least these are some things to try. Best of luck.
 
Right now she is holding on. I'm forcing her to drink water... sometimes with garlic, sometimes with ACV. She still won't eat ANYTHING (though I'm forcing her to ingest some olive oil by pouring it over her beak), but is mysteriously still pooping (black, runny) a couple of times each day. Tomorrow morning she is going to see an avian vet. I just can't bear to see her like this, and I don't want to lose her. The latest thing is that she is tossing her head from side to side a lot. I'll post an update after she sees the vet. Hoping she can beat this! Thank you both for the comments and suggestions and empathy.
 
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Did you check her crop in the morning?
If she has, her crop shouldn't be flat.
Always a bump on it as you can see clearly.

It sounds like more infections or worms plus something may be going on.

It is a good choice to bring her to a vet.

I hope your hen will recover very soon.
You are a good owner of her.

Cheers,
 
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Right now she is holding on.  I'm forcing her to drink water... sometimes with garlic, sometimes with ACV.  She still won't eat ANYTHING (though I'm forcing her to ingest some olive oil by pouring it over her beak), but is mysteriously still pooping (black, runny) a couple of times each day.  Tomorrow morning she is going to see an avian vet.  I just can't bear to see her like this, and I don't want to lose her.  The latest thing is that she is tossing her head from side to side a lot.  I'll post an update after she sees the vet.  Hoping she can beat this!  Thank you both for the comments and suggestions and empathy.
Can you post a picture of the black poop.

Her moving her head side to side is adjusting her crop trying to get things moving.

She needs to be tube feed if she isn't eating or drinking on her own.
 
You will most certainly kill the bird if you force ACV, garlic, and olive oil down it's throat. Likely there's intestinal trouble like enteritis, or the gizzard not operating properly, lack of grit, worms, eating wads of grass, etc. The crop gets impacted, and if left too long in that condition, a fungal infection develops (candida).

Medistatin (Nystatin) is active against internal fungal infections. If the crop is full, you need to invert the bird while supporting the body against your stomach or hip. Gently massage the crop in a downward motion to expel the contents of the crop (assisting the bird to vomit).

I haven't had that problem in a long time, but once I removed the wad of grass that began to exit the mouth and the bird recovered afterwards. A fungal infection in the crop was cured with a 5cc spoon of Medistatin in a quart of water for 5 days. You can also mix it with feed. Here is what it looks like:
http://www.jedds.com/-strse-651/MEDISTATIN-100-g-(Medpet)/Detail.bok
 
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Did you check her crop in the morning?
If she has, her crop shouldn't be flat.
Always a bump on it as you can see clearly.

It sounds like more infections or worms plus something may be going on.

It is a good choice to bring her to a vet.

I hope your hen will recover very soon.
You are a good owner of her.

Cheers,

The crop should be completely flat before she eats in the morning, if not, there is a problem with the crop.
 

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