Hen with swollen side of face. Help/Advice appreciated.

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So I talked to the vet this morning, via phone, about treatments. We decided Tylosin would be our best option. He offered to calculate the dosage for me if I know her weight. I don't have a scale so I had to take her in. I have a sticky note with dosage instructions but no meds. I tried one feed store on the way home but they didn't have any and couldn't get any until next wednesday. I guess I'll be busy today trying to track down Tylan. His instructions say to inject it into the muscle every 12 hours for 14 days. I'm a little shocked. Does it really take that long to clear up? (That's the instructions for 200mg/ml given 0.25cc each time) If I don't find any tylan today I'm wondering what her progression will be like untreated.
 
Deifinately get her the meds as soon as you can, because the bacteria will just continue to thrive. As far as the length of treatment, you should see improvement within a few days, but you'll want to be sure to give her the full course to totally get rid of the infection. Good luck, and keep us posted!
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I have the same thing as you only several birds have it. I called WADDL and the Dr. said Tylan but in the soluble form. Good luck with either. I did find the injectable at Dels in Wa. but had to order from jeffers and wont be here till next week. With the injectable where do you give the shot? In the breast? I do have a friend who has some here for me to use. Thanks and good luck with your!
 
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What a journey! I didn't get around to finding Tylan yesterday but this morning presented another can of worms that just might be the actual cause and I'm glad I hadn't made a purchase yet.
This morning I found bloody droppings in the main coop. I've only owned chickens since April 2009 and I haven't had any major issues. This was a bit upsetting. I've had time to process it now and can tell you exactly what happened. I purchased 15 meat chickens on July 15 for my broody to raise for me. There were a few issues that were present in the first few days but they all resolved themselves. On the 20th I was out with visitors watching the chicks when one of them pooped blood. I hadn't seen any droppings like it before so I decided to watch for more. I never saw any more like it. What I would see on occasion was the poop that is labeled as the shedding of intestinal lining on the chicken poo chart. I again didn't worry since it's labeled as normal. On the 23rd we lost our first chick, and the next morning we lost another. Both seemed to be failure to thrive cases. Both were skinny and just didn't appear to be able to fight off the healthier ones for the goods. There were a few others who were smaller then the rest but there weren't any other losses until yesterday (a week after the first loss). There was a dead one in the morning and another died in the afternoon. Since my broody wasn't looking good I was becoming suspicious but I though respiratory infection not cocci. After researching intensively this morning I decided that the chicks have had cocci and it's spread to the rest of my flock. I move the pen that the chicks are in every other day so that the droppings don't accumulate. When I do so the rest of my flock likes to scope out the ground for treats they didn't get and food that the chicks shoveled out of the food container. Oops. So I've purchased Sulmet and am in the process of dumping all water that is around the yard so they have no other choice but to drink the medicated water. I've decided to wait on Tylan and see if the swelling that is left on my broody's face (it doesn't look so bad today) will resolve itself with this treatment.

I have a few questions about this outbreak. 1) How long do we have to wait to eat another egg? 2) Does cocci effect the eggs, are the eggs from yesterday ok to eat? 3) I was planning on selling my youngest layers. Can I still do that? 4) How can I get it out of my yard? 5) What do I need to know about having it in my yard and exposing future chicks to it?

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My main flock consists of 5 year-old hens, 2 twenty-weeks, and 3 fifteen-weeks. All layers. I also have 2 fifteen week old ducks. I feed my critters Organic Pride and they free range my acre all day. I spoil them all so they get wild bird seed, yogurt, fruit and egg as treats frequently. I'm not sure what else you might be wondering so I'll stop here. This wasn't supposed to happen to me! Thanks every one. I'll keep you posted

Oh and I couldn't figure out how to change the title to reflect the new development. Instructions anyone?
 
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I have dealt repeatedly with sinus infection on one of my hens and this is what the avian vet has told me to do. Do not despair if you cannot find Tylan. Until you track down the meds this is the absolutely best thing you can do for her:

Seperate the hen in a nice quiet place. Give her warm (not hot), wet compresses to the infected side of the face. See how the infection is still very watery? That's what you want. You want it to remain watery. It's coming out her eyes because the sinus cavity is blocked. If you do not give the hen these warm compresses (and I have done it every hour on the hour) that liquid becomes more and more solid until it becomes a yellow firm cottage cheese consistency. Then, with any luck, it will make its way down into their nostrils and you will be spending lots of time trying to gently pick it out with a sterilized rubber tip dental tool. The worst case scenario is the vet will have to put the hen under general anth. and cut the sinus cavity open and scoop it out.

Remember: warm, wet compresses gently applied to the side of the face every hour for about ten minutes each time to keep the stuff watery and moving out of her.

Hope it helps. I've dealt with this constantly because our hen's sinus cavity was injured and she's susceptible to sinus infection. I've gotten to be such a pro at this she's only had to be on the Tylan/Baytril once.

Pam

Give her some electrolytes, too.
 
And the problems continue.

My BR came out of the coop this morning with a full crop; a very soft balloon like crop. From what I understand medication can create a yeast infection in the crop of birds. Is this right? All my birds have had sulmet for 2 days now. I'm thinking I need to treat her for sour crop. I have read that I need to isolate her and restrict food for 24 to 48 hours. I understand that I need to turn her upside down, by tilting her forward, and massage her crop for 1/2 a minute at a time until it's empty. I understand that she should be offered water with Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. My question here is; do I continue the sulmet water treatment and add the ACV to it? If so I'd like to do that with the rest of the flock. I have been feeling around as I can catch them and have noticed another soft crop on a bird that is acting normal. After emptying the crop and restricting her diet to ACV water I should be offering her soft foods for a few days little by little. Can I cook the eggs I've gotten from them these past 2 days and feed them to her? I've saved them just in case. Input is greatly appreciated.

I've been watching all my chickens carefully since I began medicating them (I watch them carefully anyway). I'm a bit concerned about by little rooster, 15 weeks old. He's become quite lethargic and his comb has turned purple. I'm not sure what's happening or what to do for him. I've attached a picture of his head. Let me know what you think.
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Since I started the sulmet treatment for Cocci I have noticed an increase in red-orange pieces and watery poop. When should I see improved poop? I haven't lost any more chicks (although my tiny ones still look sickly) and my broody looks good.

ugh..I'm so ready for normalcy.
 

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