Heritage Large Fowl - Phase II

[RedRidge]

THe foods we eat have far reaching consequences IMO-- and for me I don't drink milk anymore at all because the sugar count is very high. CHeese is a whole nother matter. If I am understanding the A1-A2 concept correctly, it maybe time to ditch the sheep of 25 years, and bring in goats. Food for thought. lol

All sheep are homozygous A2.
That documentation, along with component testing for all the various dairy breeds can be found at the various research websites in several countries and here in the US at both the Spooner research station and the National database.
Most Holsteins are not, very few jerseys are, some Dexters are (which is what I have), and most Guernsey are.

 

[subhanalah]

Add vinegar, esp unpasurized ACV-- many of my birds have choices as they free range and do drink  the acidilated water as it stays fresh.

if you add ACV to your waterers, you should rinse and clean the containers daily. The trace nutrients in the ACV promote mold growth. (This is a fact)

 

[RedRidge]

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Maybe/Maybe not. Here's a link to get the genetic test done. If you have a pure A1 flock, then maybe switch to A2 sheep, or goats. It may be worth testing a few or all fo them to find out before replacing everything. Edit: Here's a link in more recent articles to the UCDavis testing facility https://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/A2Genotyping.php The link below has been used by a dairy owner that I bought raw milk from but they haven't updated any posts since 2012. May try calling before sending money. http://emineral.info/a1a2/genetic-testing/

There are actually two places doing the genetic testing in the US... One is UCDavis (which is who I use), and the other is TX A&M That said... There are 3 genetic tests we do for cheese also... UCDavis does all that testing for me.

 

[hellbender]

I used machines when I wad milking hundreds a day. I now milk by hand - both cows and sheep. Ironically the cows are much messier. The sheep deposit only small marbles. .. And. .. When calm and trained to milk never make a mess when being milked... unlike cited to go tens to go whenever they get nervous or the urge strikes them. ;-)

All kidding aside...I'd much rather get goat or sheep 'kicked' than cow kicked! About the worst the first two can do is spill the milk but even a friendly cow can get a deer fly on her and udder or leg and kick you twice before someone can bet it on high-speed film!!!

 

[Arielle]

Quote: Ummm my waterer have been much cleaner than without. THe slight layer of slimy that can grow in a missed container doesn't grow in the containers with vinegar added.

Otherwise, I guess I would ask, is all mold bad mold?? ANd is this a good mold or a bad mold??

 

[subhanalah]

Ummm my waterer have been much cleaner than without. THe slight layer of slimy that can grow in a missed container doesn't grow in the containers with vinegar added. 

Otherwise, I guess I would ask, is all mold bad mold?? ANd is this a good mold or a bad mold??

it's black mold, isn't all black mold bad mold?
Just read this reply...try saying that 10 times fast

 

[hellbender]

There are actually two places doing the genetic testing in the US... One is UCDavis (which is who I use), and the other is TX A&M

That said... There are 3 genetic tests we do for cheese also... UCDavis does all that testing for me.

We never have to test out cheese, at least not the hard varieties. If it blows up, I figure it's not good. I'm worse than a kid...I love to paint the hard cheese with the colored wax. My Granny used plain ol' sealing wax...and it worked fine. She made some fine 'hard farmstead cheese' that was quite sharp and I loved it. I haven't quite got it as good as she did but I'm getting close. Might be the sealing wax...I'll try that!

To get this on to chickens...My birds know when we're cheese making and if it's before they go in for the night, they wait out by the fence..sure, we pour out about 6 or 8 gallons of whey into those 2 gallon rubber tubs after they get their little bit of crack'...ed corn. It amazes me, just how much they love that stuff (cracked corn), considering everything else they get on their own and what we give to 'em!

 

[subhanalah]

We never have to test out cheese, at least not the hard varieties.  If it blows up, I figure it's not good.  I'm worse than a kid...I love to paint the hard cheese with the colored wax.  My Granny used plain ol' sealing wax...and it worked fine.  She made some fine 'hard farmstead cheese' that was quite sharp and I loved it.  I haven't quite got it as good as she did but I'm getting close.  Might be the sealing wax...I'll try that!

To get this on to chickens...My birds know when we're cheese making and if it's before they go in for the night, they wait out by the fence..sure, we pour out about 6 or 8 gallons of whey into those 2 gallon rubber tubs after they get their little bit of crack'...ed corn. It amazes me, just how much they love that stuff (cracked corn), considering everything else they get on their own and what we give to 'em!

I hear it's like candy to them! Maybe that's where some genius got the bright idea to make candy corn (disgusting blech!)

 

[gjensen]

Concerning the water, mold would be a concern (or the slime) that forms at the rim because it provides a medium for bacteria to grow. What I tell my boy is if it is not squeaky clean, then it isn't clean. No matter how it looks.

It would take too much ACV to drop the PH enough to deter bacterial growth. Enough to be effective would make the birds not want to drink the water. ACV is one of those truths that gets passed around but has no real effect concerning the water.

 

[subhanalah]

 Concerning the water, mold would be a concern (or the slime) that forms at the rim because it provides a medium for bacteria to grow. What I tell my boy is if it is not squeaky clean, then it isn't clean. No matter how it looks.

 It would take too much ACV to drop the PH enough to deter bacterial growth. Enough to be effective would make the birds not want to drink the water. ACV is one of those truths that gets passed around but has no real effect concerning the water.

especially with my 8+ pH water!