homeless sleeping in coop

[HLAC]

I would not approach them and I would not tolerate them.

I would help someone who asked for help but somebody who breaks into buildings and is stealing food is probably not quite 'right' and I would be concerned for my own safety.
Safety on multiple levels... where are they doing 'thier business'?? Do they have hepatitis or some other communicable disease or parasites? What if they get hurt on my property. Might seem petty.. right up until you get attacked, infected, sued or whatever.

 

[welsummerchicks]

You don't understand my post.

TO THEM THAT IS THE INVITATION TO STAY - you gave them something - it doesn' tmatter what message you think you give, it matters in what way they take the message. That is what will govern how they behave next.

A lot of homeless are impaired they are not going to understand, to them it is a mixed message, I have been dealing with them for many years I am just telling you how it is. Locking the door means nothing - doors are always locked. There are different rules for them - you need to understand how it looks to them if you want to get them to go away.

The way I said - it works - if you do not want them hanging around DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY THING and TELL THEM YOU DO NOT WANT THEM AROUND and you WILL call the police.

You have to be obvious simple and very clear, you have to act the same way from first meeting with all of them because they also tell each other who gives food etc.

I am saying what IS, not saying what SHOULD be, how they SHOULD take it, sure everyone should have drawing room manners. Fact is they live in a different world.

 

[Slinkytoys]

Google "squatter's rights". That should scare you enough to end their visit.
It really sounds as though they are escalating their territory. You are luck that they haven't defended "their" place.
Slinky

 

[MyKidLuvsGreenEgz]

I **did** understand your post, and I still disagree. Reasons stated above.

 

[paddock36]

I think I would set out a bunch of rat traps for all the "rats" that get into empty buildings at night in the dark. I bet the rats will make a lot of noise at night when they get caught too.

 

[lone oak]

turning my head to someone takeing food and turning my head to someone breaking in a keyed locked door are two VERY different things. i could not stand to say no to food when i had veggies that would have filled buckets full, it would be inhumane to be standing in the middle of buckets of food and refuse food. breaking into my building and doing damage to the point the door and frame will have to be replaced is much different. now if they realy thought it was ok to do this then why come after dark and leave before daylight? a person doesnt hide if they do not know what they done was wrong. i dont know that it IS the same couple, i just know food items were being taken i had seen this couple in process of takeing food, and now someone is sleeping first in a unlocked building and after we made it undesireable to sleep in someone broke into a locked building. i seen the couple on my property one time, i spoke to them one time, months ago. i have seen them walking and i do not comunicate with them in any way i try to not even look at them, i do not want them to even think i remember who they are. if it were under conditions where i could just walk up and say hey i dont want you sleeping here then that would be a lot easier on me, them, the police, everyone. as it is that hasnt been a option.

 

[feather and mountain man]

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[Sonoran Silkies]

When you speak to the police, mention the entire episode from last summer. Whether or not it is the same couple is moot. Somehow the word has gotten out that your place is a good place to live rent and board free. I think you need to alarm the buildings--either audible alarms to scare them off, or silent ones so that you (or the police) can catch them in the act. Also consider a game cam or security camera to record illegal visitors. The No Trespassing signs may be necessary to enforce trespassing laws. I know that in Arizona the signs havew to be properly worded and posted (and specifically list the state law) to be able to prosecute trespassors. A simple "No Trespassing" will not cut it, although it may provide some deterance.

It is one thing for a homeless person or family to try to be self sufficient. However, stealing food and shelter is NOT being self sufficient. And if they live on your land long enough, they can legally claim your land if you have not made efforts to remove them or specifically given them permission.

 

[Rozzie]

You will be held liable if someone gets hurt, too. If they get hurt on your property, there is a very good chance that they can sue you and win. If you knew they were there and did nothing about it, you may even have more liability because in that case they might not even be considered trespassers anymore. It could also get to the point where you have to legally evict them, at your own expense, through the court system, depending on your state laws regarding such things. I suggest taking care of this sooner rather than later.

 

[welsummerchicks]

A lawsuit from the homeless person is unlikely but what is common, is that the property owner is the one who gets fined for the garbage, unhealthy conditions, or if a crime is committed one can even find that is to some extent a participant if one does not go to certain lengths to report, get them off the property, secure buildings, have certain kinds of fencing, locks, etc.