Homesteaders

[CapricornFarm]

I got a bunch of bushes for the front of the house at 75% off! I was sad i missed the fruit trees, though. Did manage to get 6 blueberry bushes and 3 thornless blackberry canes.

 

[lazy gardener]

Lovely photo, RH.

Scary about the CWD.

 

[CapricornFarm]

I saw a very healthy looking buck this morning not far from here. Have not seen any scrawny ones.

 

[igorsMistress]

Cap they still appear healthy but have the disease.

 

[Molpet]

by me several tested that they had the disease and the hunter said they acted ok and looked ok... by the time the test came back we had eaten some and since they had said it was ok to eat the meat we didn't worry about it... until now

 

[lazy gardener]

My limited understanding is that prion diseases can not even be destroyed by cooking. Have worked with a CJD patient and it was a very sad process to watch.

 

[Molpet]

yes that is what I have read, and may take years before symptoms show

I put my faith in God and turn my worries over to him

 

[Cajun_MikeR]

So, a search led to this info from the CDC...

"Though many observers try to compare CWD with “mad cow disease”, the diseases are distinctly different. Currently, there is no evidence that CWD poses a risk for humans; however, public health officials recommend that human exposure to the CWD infectious agent be avoided as they continue to evaluate any potential health risk.

The World Health Organization has reviewed available scientific information and concluded that currently there is no evidence that CWD can be transmitted to humans. During the period 1997-1998, three cases of sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) occurred in the U.S. in young adults. These individuals had consumed venison. This led to speculation about possible transmission of CWD from deer or elk to humans. However, review of the clinical records and pathological studies of all three cases by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia, did not find a causal link to CWD.

Nonetheless, health and wildlife officials advise caution. Hunters are encouraged not to consume meat from animals known to be infected. In addition, hunters should take common sense precautions when field dressing and processing deer or elk taken in areas where CWD is found.

Do not shoot, handle or consume an elk or deer that is acting abnormally or appears to be sick. When field-dressing game, wear rubber gloves and minimize the use of a bone saw to cut through the brain or spinal cord (backbone). Bone out the meat. Minimize contact with and do not consume brain or spinal cord tissues, eyes, spleen, or lymph nodes. Always wash hands thoroughly after dressing and processing game meat."

 

[Molpet]

So, a search led to this info from the CDC...

"Though many observers try to compare CWD with “mad cow disease”, the diseases are distinctly different. Currently, there is no evidence that CWD poses a risk for humans; however, public health officials recommend that human exposure to the CWD infectious agent be avoided as they continue to evaluate any potential health risk.

The World Health Organization has reviewed available scientific information and concluded that currently there is no evidence that CWD can be transmitted to humans. During the period 1997-1998, three cases of sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) occurred in the U.S. in young adults. These individuals had consumed venison. This led to speculation about possible transmission of CWD from deer or elk to humans. However, review of the clinical records and pathological studies of all three cases by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia, did not find a causal link to CWD.

Nonetheless, health and wildlife officials advise caution. Hunters are encouraged not to consume meat from animals known to be infected. In addition, hunters should take common sense precautions when field dressing and processing deer or elk taken in areas where CWD is found.

Do not shoot, handle or consume an elk or deer that is acting abnormally or appears to be sick. When field-dressing game, wear rubber gloves and minimize the use of a bone saw to cut through the brain or spinal cord (backbone). Bone out the meat. Minimize contact with and do not consume brain or spinal cord tissues, eyes, spleen, or lymph nodes. Always wash hands thoroughly after dressing and processing game meat."

the link I posted was new info presented in May 2017 .. study done on feeding meat to monkeys and they got CWD... Different states are now changing recommendations.

 

[itsasmallfarm]

well with all this talk about CWD now affecting humans, i was thinking of another way to get meat. so i have had the idea before (talked about it a bit) but am going to set up a small aquaculture system, where i live we can raise trout and tilapia (with a permit for the tilapia). so i talked and thought about and going to be trying to set up what i call the aquatic research center (lol) so here is my plan on getting fresh fish year round.

tilapia (hoping i can get a permit for them) can get them any time of the year, from my local hatchery, from some research they take between 9-12 months to reach 1.5lbs so am hoping 9 months for 1 lb (hoping that is reasonable) and with a 300 gallon tank i hope to be able to raise some where between 20-60 fish (the plan is to start very small) at 1 lb each that is again between 20-60 lbs of fish (live weight) with a dress out of about 50% filleting them (i fillet every thing from pike to trout) that is about 10-30 lbs of fish fillets in 9 months of work (and by work i mean feeding and maybe topping water every week or so) then take a few months off for summer camping and start back up again in the fall.