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Dontcha love it when they make you look good in front of 'company?'
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But it's only natural that she would have to act up later. Can't have you taking her good behavior for granted, y'know.
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But really, if there must be brattiness, wouldn't you rather have it on just your time, and have her be fun for the kids? Maybe she thought she had done her bit for the day, and was sulking over having to do some more work. Whatever her 'issue,' she needs to get over it, and with time, she will.

Pardon me a minute while I brag on Syd . . . .
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BB2K and I were working with the horses yesterday. Syd and I did a little lunging and yielding with her in harness; she did pretty well, so I decided to try hooking a couple of pieces of PVC pipe to the loops and let her drag them around. We've done this before, but it's been a while, so I wasn't sure how much of a refresher she'd need. You'd have thought we had done it every day for a week, at least . . . . . absolutely no problems at all. I told BB2K, "I think she's ready to try the drag." I have a drag/roller that I made by inserting several pieces of pipe of varying sizes into each other; the longest (and skinniest) is about 5 feet long, and the outermost piece is 4" heavyweight PVC - total weight is probably 40 pounds or so. It's useful for leveling out ruts and hoofmarks, and it makes a lot of bumping and rattling sounds when you pull it. Syd has seen me pull it around, so she is familiar with it, though I had never had her pull it before. She stood quietly while I attached it to the traces with a couple of pieces of baling twine. Since this was a new experience, I led her rather than "driving" her . . . . once again, absolutely no problems. She never batted an eye. We got the drag snagged on roots and things, and she stood still while I got her untangled, One time, while getting things sorted, the drag wound up standing on one end and then falling over and hitting the ground with a loud thump; we managed to get the traces all in around and under her feet. I know, it sounds like I was being a terrible klutz of a trainer, but this was semi-deliberate; we need her to know that dumb things happen and it's no biggie - if she's gonna wig out, we want it to happen now, and not when she has a cart with people in it behind her. We went all over the paddocks for probably 20 minutes or so. Syd was so completely unruffled, BB2K said, "you want to get the cart out and let her get a look at it?" "Sure," I said. So she brought the cart out, and with BB2K between the shafts, we let Syd see it, and smell it, and walk around it, and walk beside and behind and in front and . . . you get the idea. Then we backed Syd in between the shafts (note to self: we need a bit more practice at backing straight) and hooked her to the cart. I led her around the yard and down the driveway, and though she was a little uncertain about the whole thing, she was calm - thinking and listening rather than reacting. On the way back to the barn area, BB2K rode in the cart, and Syd was fine with that, too. We did have a little trouble getting her to stand still while we were getting her unhitched (this is Syd, after all, and she'd been very good for quite a while), but all in all, I couldn't be more pleased with her.

The cart still needs some work. My husband designed it, and a welder friend built it, but it's one of those situations where neither knew enough about what they were doing to understand how little they knew.
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We have corrected some of the problems with it, but it's still going to need a few more adjustments before I can hitch Syd and actually drive her while riding in it. But for what we did yesterday, it worked well enough, and I am one happy camper!
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That's still really good! A little progress is definitely better than no progress. And yes I was glad she was good for the kids, becuase they loved it. And awesome! Sounds like she did wonderful for a first timer. I'd like to see some pictures hooked up to the cart
 
I did Liberty work with June today! On accident. I was riding her and she was being sassy (of course) so I got off and started doing some ground work, and I guess over time I've taught her that if I wave my hand towards myself that means for her to come to me, so anyways I was round penning her with just a riding whip, and then I did something (not sure what?) and she started doing smaller circles, and I figured out that if I turn my body a certain way and put my hand down by my side and wave it in and wiggle the riding whip behind her, she'll do circles at Liberty! Just a walk, but still so awesome. And then we worked on backing and by the end of the session I had her walking circles around me on both sides and then backing up when I turned backwards and waved the riding whip in front of her, and I backed her all the way across the round pen like that.
I either can't or don't know how to post videos, so here's a couple screenshots from the video I had. Not that you can tell what's going on, but I'm just so excited!
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Good for you!
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When you watch Clinton Anderson's videos, you'll hear him talk about exaggerating your body language, but that's as much for the owner's benefit as the horse's (so they are conscious of what they are doing and "saying"). Horses can be very subtle. In the movie "Buck," Buck Brannaman talks about working off a 'feel,' where you make your signals so subtle that maybe only you and the horse know that you said something. That should be your goal - making what you want totally clear to the horse, and getting to the point where the horse is unquestioningly willing to do what you ask.

I've probably told you about having this problem with my mini mule, Betsy. When I first got her, I had more trouble working with her, because she was instantly so "in tune" with my body language that it seemed like she was reading my mind. I could be lunging her, and I might think, "OK, halfway around again and then we'll . . . ." and Betsy would stop - immediately. I might not have known it, but I must have relaxed slightly or in some other way dropped the pressure, and Betsy would read it as a cue. I learned that I had to consciously up the pressure when I thought about stepping it down, or she'd anticipate me. You communicate with every part of you, not just your voice and hands, and as you become aware of what you are saying, you get better at being understood - and that's a great feeling.
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I've been really trying to focus on my body language for he past few days, and I think that's how we've gotten to this point. I decided a couple days ago that every time I went out there I would try to do all my work without ever talking to her (aside from the word "whoa") and it's been working really well, although I did call her a heifer at one point yesterday lol. But if I'm not talking the only thing I can do is use my body language and it's making a big difference.

Oh, and I bought a reining/training book by Al Dunning yesterday, and ordered another training book online, can't remember who that ones by though. I'm really trying to take this as seriously as possible.
 
When you face a horse squarely, you are a wall - your energy says, "no thoroughfare."



When I look at these pictures, I see your left shoulder back - you have become a door, inviting her to move into that space. If that's what you want, good - just be mindful of what you do with your feet, or you may find that June is lunging you!
 
This was the first time for both of us doing anything like this, so it was a little rough and I do still have to work on how I stand and what I do with my feet, but I could definitely tell a difference on what she did depending on how I held my shoulders and upper body. It was pretty awesome though to be able to get her to walk circles around me without having her on a lead or anything. Im super excited to keep working on Liberty stuff with her. And her backing up was good too. She actually backed that way better than she does on the lead.
Now something I haven't been able to figure out, no matter what I'm doing with her, if she sees my grandpa, she completely ignores me and won't do anything but go stand by him. I'll struggle and struggle with her to do what I want but it's like she turns her brain off when she sees him. How can I redirect her attention back to me?
 
Oh my gosh! Just spent about 20 minutes with June, I worked a little more on what we did yesterday and I got her to circle me while I stood in one spot. I did shuffle my feet around a little, but for the most part I stayed in one spot and I didn't turn with her or follow her, just faced one direction. It was wonderful! I'm feeling pretty accomplished right now. And we did some more backing up and she was super good at it today. I'm probably going to end up doing way more Liberty work than I am riding now
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I absolutely love it.
 
Now something I haven't been able to figure out, no matter what I'm doing with her, if she sees my grandpa, she completely ignores me and won't do anything but go stand by him. I'll struggle and struggle with her to do what I want but it's like she turns her brain off when she sees him. How can I redirect her attention back to me?
She's at his place, right? One question - who handles the feeding?
 

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