How do you go about creating these colors?

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Hi all,
I am a D'Anver bantam lover, and currently have 15 colors of them from all over the country.
I have quite a few new colors I would like to work on making though, and was wondering if any of you knew how to go about coming up with them, be it a color cross over the current d'anver colors I have, or to outcross it with o.e.'s, any info would be of great interest.
Here's what I have in d'anver at the moment
quail, blue quail, silver quail, cuckoo, blue cuckoo, b.b. reds, buff, white, blue, black, self blue, black mottled, millie fluer, porcelain, and splash.

Here's what I am wanting to work on, it's quite a list.

Goldneck, silver and gold duckwing and laced, pyle, crele, red, blue breasted red, wheaton, birchen, lemon millie fluer,columbian, and buff columbian. Then want to "blue" the main colors, like blue millie fluer, blue columbian, etc....

A friend of mine recently told me now that I have the b.b. reds, to cross them over cuckoos for the crele patter, and to cross them over the whites to get the red pyle, so plan to try that this spring, any more info yall may have would be great!

Here's a couple pics of some of what we have now.

 

[canada-goose]

They're gorgeous! I think you forgot blue wheaten on your list though!

 

[becky3086]

So you have a thousand pens and nothing to do with them

Seriouly, you have beautiful birds. Hope someone comes on and helps you.

Pssst! I count 16 colors, lol.

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

Wow, so many colors. I will start with the basics. If you want crele-ish birds you breed a barred rooster to BBR hens, and maybe use the blue barred boy and get both normal and blue crele at the same time. With the pyle it really depends on what kind of white they are. Red pyle is just a BBR bird with dom. white I think. The other colors can be easily done if done right but I dunno how to do it. For blue in your existing colors just breed a splash bird to the other pattern like BBR. That will give you all blue F1's. Just keep the best blue birds from that mating and keep mating back to BBR and just select the blue birds with best type/pattern and you'll get there eventually.
As far as crossing to OEGB, dont the d'anvers have more of a loose feathering unlike the OEGB's which are close feathered? If its similar then just get a blue breasted red bird and breed to BBR.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Thanks flying money, That's kind of what I was needing to know, I sure appreciate it.
Becky, count again! An yes, I have 130 acres here, so time, space and pens are not a problem

And Kooshie, Thanks a lot, we think so too, oh and no, didnt forget the blue wheaton, remember, I want to "blue up all the main colors once established.

I am well aware that this is all very time consuming and labor intensive, dont really care, this is something I really want to work on. So thanks for all the ideas, keep 'em coming
Aubrey

 

[becky3086]

LOL, they really are just gorgeous. Do you have more pictures of your other d'anvers. I would love to see them.

 

[Goose and Fig]

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Yes-more pics! I love the way they stand- too cute!

 

[tadkerson]

You should not have dominant white in any of you birds so you will have to out cross to produce the golden neck and red pyle. The lemon mille fleur would also require an out cross to pick up the cream gene.

I would suggest you concentrate on one or two varieties . If you pick out one variety, I will be glad to post a breeding regimen for the variety.

Tim

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Thanks Tim, The goldneck, red pyle, and lemons are my main points of interest right now anyway, but do plan to work on all of them, just takes time and space....so any of them would be nice to know thanks

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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I dont have pics of all of them on file right now, but here are a few more that I do have, will try to get up some pics of the others and post them here as I get them for yall
Thanks
Aubrey

As for pens.... plenty these

are all full right now, but have another 24 stall bantam run in the works just for this project