How do you live with yourself eating the birds you raised?

[Brunty_Farms]

ou seem more interested in attacking me for my views than really having anything close to a healthy debate on this. If you want to believe in a theory of God's destiny for animals that is based on the notion that they were put here for us to have dominion over, that's your perogative. Might I suggest a book called The Dominion of Love? This powerful book uses the Bible as a reference to make the case that in fact God's intention for animals is quite the opposite than what the prevailing Christian belief is about animals and our relationship to them. If you want to call me a troll, that's fine too. I thought I was in the right place when I joined this group. We all are sharing our experiences and values about raising chickens and the hope is that people learn from one another.

Debate? What debate? Your new here and most of your post are on this thread, however let me inform you, you are in the meat bird forum. Dominated by a highly motivated group of people that are stepping aside of the status quo and going on a limb to raise healthy animal product for their families. Despite their beliefs..... and yours.... this is not the place to debate a vegan diet. I completely respect your decision to be vegan... that's all well in good. However my opinion to process and eat my own meat will always stand, regardless of what protein is healthier, bottom line... for me... meat taste better.

Honestly... venture to some other sections of this forum and have fun, this section is truly not the place to preach and debate your beliefs on vegan diets. This website is great because it caters to chicken lovers and chicken killers...... and simply enough there is a mutual respect between the two. No hard feeling but you're getting a bad view of this forum simply because your on the wrong section.

And for the God comments.... really? Take that somewhere else.... plenty of good church forums you can join.​

 

[Brunty_Farms]

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God has everything to do with MORALITY which is what I was addressing...and God is God...everything to do with everything. Give me a break

That's your opinion.... but the wrong place to preach....

 

[ZooMummzy]

Wow, this thread sure took a turn

I'll go back to the original post:

All of my chickens are pets - I bought them, hatched them and raised them as pets - but I still can eat chicken, just not my own. I have tried other people's free range chickens and have to say they are really good compared to Tyson, Foster Farm etc chickens. I still will never eat my own or let mine be purchased for food but I don't have a problem with other people doing it with theirs. Each to their own...just like the whole God thing.

 

[Sunny Side Up]

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I don't think this is a fair question. I don't see anything inconsiderate about wanting to keep your chickens as pets for as long as you wish, letting them die of natural causes or old age, and burying them in the yard. If that's your preference then go right ahead, it's really not going to set your family's budget back by much, nor make that much of a difference to the problem of world hunger. It's like trying to make someone feel ashamed that they didn't have their saddle horse or their child's pony packaged for the freezer when it got too old to be ridden.

Now I myself am a real tightwad when it comes to saving money for my family, and someone who is avery concerned about improving conditions for people world wide and supporting more gentle methods of food production. But I would not criticize anyone who couldn't bear to have particular poultry animals that they considered pets turned into food.

 

[chicnchic]

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God has everything to do with MORALITY which is what I was addressing...and God is God...everything to do with everything. Give me a break

That's your opinion.... but the wrong place to preach....

I was NOT preaching darlin...I was explaining that my response was in reply to an allegation that those of us who choose to eat our birds were acting 'immorally'....morality, by definition, implies an Authority in order for something to be either "right" or "wrong"...if there is no Authority, then it's all relative, and nothing is "right" or "wrong"...if you read on, when someone else decided to run with it, I explained that a debate about the existence of God needed to be another thread. I am not trying to preach, just state facts. I can preach, but that wasn't

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[jerseygirl1]

I vote this thread gets ended because the OP hasn't been here in a few days ........................

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

How do you live with yourself eating the birds you raised?

Hi! That's an interesting question. When I first started keeping chickens I couldn't imagine ever eating one I'd raised.
I guess, like with other things in life, my perspective has evolved. I breed and hatch manymany dual-purpose type birds and I feel like I have a responsibility toward all the birds I hatch here. It's just a matter of fact that half of what I hatch will be male and a great percentage of the males will be butchered for food (by me or someone else). In the meantime, the boys are treated the same as the girls and get the same hand-feeding and 'petting' if they are so inclined.
I've never raised any of the cornish crosses that are 'meat birds', so I don't know how I'd feel about those.
Thanks for asking,

Lisa​

 

[terri9630]

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In one sentence you state you aren't asking us to justify it and in the next you say it doesn't magically absolve us of guilt or justify the act. You are contradicting yourself. You also claim we are " desensitized" as you, as you claim, are not.

If you buy anything in the store to eat, meat or not, you are likely eating something that was fertilized by manure from a confined feeding operation farm. Like or not, something is dying for your meal. Those of us who choose to give our animals a quality life before we eat them find people like yourself to be seriously deluding yourself into thinking you are sensitive to animals, whereas we are not. By merely munching on your salads, you are contributing to and supporting the misery of thousands of animals. Your moral stand has feet of clay and you really need to step off your high horse....he is tired of being ridden and needs a rest.

Regardless of where one stands on the moral debate, I have to say you are truly wrong in your attempt to try to equate the impact of various non animal food products with those of animal products. If you look at peer-reviewed science that is not funded by animal agriculture what you will find is in fact a vast difference in impact between plant and animal production and vast differences in land use, water use, deforestation, energy consumption, pollution, climate-altering greenhouse gases, human health and animal welfare. I would encourage you to seek out the UN's Food and Agriculture Commission to get a non biased, global perspective on this if you have not. I think you will find a completely different reality than the one you are trying to pitch. I'm done with this discussion.

With your views you never should have joined it. This is the MEAT page afterall.

 

[chicnchic]

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I agree

 

[flparrotz]

I know where you are coming from as there is no way i could eat one of my birds and i have lots of them.
I just like to see them peck around and live a life where they don't ever have to worry about someone killing them.....just as i would want if i were a chicken.
I have guineas, ducks, chickens, emu's, geese, turkeys and large livestock and nothing gets killed here. Everyone has to get along here also, and that means the dogs and cats have to get along as well as all the rest.
I know in the bible it says that those of us who want a life of peace will have what we desire and(the lamb will lie down with the lion) i feel it is important for me to be a part of that if i want to experience this in my future. Sure it is easy to say that is what we want but i feel we must live it if that is what we really do want.
I know this is not for all but i am so tired of the greed and killing in this world i will do whatever it takes to live in peace.
And no, i am not a religious freak whatsoever.......but i am a spiritual person and follow my heart and gut instinct.
And i find no greater pleasure in this life than to care for my animals and watch them live out their lives.....makes me very happy indeed!