How smart are deer ?

[Pork Pie]

Well he survived the bow season, but shotgun/antlered season started today, and I hear a lot of shooting from the West towards the beagle club.

I hope they are lousy shots

 

[007Sean]

I hope they are lousy shots

Lots of shotgun hunters are...because they aim for the whole deer and not the vital spot for a heart/lung shot.

 

[Pork Pie]

Lots of shotgun hunters are...because they aim for the whole deer and not the vital spot for a heart/lung shot.

Good point. I can’t really understand the satisfaction of shotgun stuff for anything but birds (and that’s dubious, to me) and vermin control Maybe they’ll all forget their orange tabbards

 

[sourland]

Hope he makes through season. How long is the season?

Through mid January - deer population is so high the season seems endless.

Lots of shotgun hunters are...because they aim for the whole deer and not the vital spot for a heart/lung shot.

And therein lies the problem resulting in horrifically wounded animals. I have no problem with killing. It's the unnecessary causing of pain/abuse that frosts me.

 

[007Sean]

Yep, shotguns are great for birds and snakes but wouldn't even think about using one for deer hunting. I know there are some states that only allow shotgun's to be used because of the human population density.
I'd rather hunt with a bow than use a shotgun. I'll probably get some flack over these comments but oh well.

 

[007Sean]

Through mid January - deer population is so high the season seems endless.



And therein lies the problem resulting in horrifically wounded animals. I have no problem with killing. It's the unnecessary causing of pain/abuse that frosts me.

Some people shouldn't be hunting period, whether shotgun, rifle or bow...I've seen some horrifically wounded animals shot by peeps that just "shot" at the animal. They had no business being out in the field.

 

[itsasmallfarm]

wow your season is long, and that is for white tail?

 

[bobbi-j]

Lots of shotgun hunters are...because they aim for the whole deer and not the vital spot for a heart/lung shot.

I respectfully disagree with you, Sean. We are only allowed to hunt with shotguns. We use slugs. Out of the 6 deer that our family shot this year, there was only a small amount of wasted meat on a deer that turned and was quartering away as my nephew shot. She went down and he was able to get to her and finish her off in less than a minute. The rest of the deer were heart/lung shot. All the slug hunters I know wait to try to get that kill shot. Why just shoot at the body? You risk ruining a lot of meat that way.

And therein lies the problem resulting in horrifically wounded animals. I have no problem with killing. It's the unnecessary causing of pain/abuse that frosts me.

Again - it’s not just slug hunters that do that. There are a lot of others who also just shoot (bow, shotgun or rifle) and if the animal doesn’t drop right in its tracks, don’t bother to look for blood or a downed animal.

 

[bobbi-j]

@sourland - I hope your boy gets through the season.

 

[Pork Pie]

I respectfully disagree with you, Sean. We are only allowed to hunt with shotguns. We use slugs. Out of the 6 deer that our family shot this year, there was only a small amount of wasted meat on a deer that turned and was quartering away as my nephew shot. She went down and he was able to get to her and finish her off in less than a minute. The rest of the deer were heart/lung shot. All the slug hunters I know wait to try to get that kill shot. Why just shoot at the body? You risk ruining a lot of meat that way.

Again - it’s not just slug hunters that do that. There are a lot of others who also just shoot (bow, shotgun or rifle) and if the animal doesn’t drop right in its tracks, don’t bother to look for blood or a downed animal.

Maybe its a bit like anything we as humans do There are bad car drivers and considerate ones etc. Some bad apples irk us all to different levels but they are just that - a minority and in that context, I’m sure your points are totally valid.