How to tell legitimate puppy ads from scammers and puppy mill ads.

[dekel18042]

I think what bothers most people in the breeding and dog sports world is that most have gotten dogs from several backgrounds. Many responsible breeders rescue and or support rescue. Many dogs who participate in dog sports (I'm using this example because I participate in them and know many people who do.) have come from many sources, breeders, shelters, rescues, etc. So while these people support rescue, it seems in some cases the favor is not returned. If you buy you're made to look like a shelter dog killer (See some of the peta ads. ) Maybe someone wants a dog with a
certain size or temperament or bred to do certain jobs, and you stack the deck in your favor when you get from a known source or background.
Thankfully we are able to choose where we get our next dog (And rescue seems to be in now), and the reasons why and hopefully it will stay that way. And neither side will criticize the other and all will work for better care and homes for all dogs.

 

[dainerra]

now I want to have a short rant on a personal pet peeve in the "rescue" mentality. The misuse of the word rescue. "Oh I went to see a litter of puppies advertised. They were filthy dirty and in horrible health. I paid him $500 and I'm thinking of going back to rescue more"

Ummmm no you didn't "rescue" this dog. You purchased him and because of that the crappy breeder made an easy $500 so the next time he wants some cash he'll breed his dog again. You're not part of the solution; you're part of the problem. And of course if you dare share this opinion, you are mean and heartless and "just don't understand" And how could you just walk off and leave those puppies to suffer?

 

[Ol Grey Mare]

now I want to have a short rant on a personal pet peeve in the "rescue" mentality. The misuse of the word rescue. "Oh I went to see a litter of puppies advertised. They were filthy dirty and in horrible health. I paid him $500 and I'm thinking of going back to rescue more"

Ummmm no you didn't "rescue" this dog. You purchased him and because of that the crappy breeder made an easy $500 so the next time he wants some cash he'll breed his dog again. You're not part of the solution; you're part of the problem. And of course if you dare share this opinion, you are mean and heartless and "just don't understand" And how could you just walk off and leave those puppies to suffer?

Thank you - "rescue" is one of the most over/mis-used words these days in regards to animals.

 

[dainerra]

and of course every dog that flinches at a noise or sudden movement is OBVIOUSLY abused *eye roll*

 

[dekel18042]

Maybe because down the road you'd be saving more puppies if that person didn't breed?
In certain parts of the country, the Northeast for example has a dearth of small cute dogs available so they are bringing them in from wherever, the south, overseas, etc. Then the selling price seems to be around $500.00.
Flying a puppy isn't cheap. I just did one for close to $300.00. Wouldn't it make more sense to go into these areas where there are too many dogs and open a spay mobile vet clinic, or spend the money in that area with low cost S/N?
Unfortunately some of the dogs being transported are being some of the parasites and diseases from their area with them.

 

[Finnie]

So while these people support rescue, it seems in some cases the favor is not returned. If you buy you're made to look like a shelter dog killer (See some of the peta ads. )

Exactly. That was my point. Adopting is great, if you find the dog you want there. But the slogan of the group that wants nobody to "shop" rubs me the wrong way.

 

[Finnie]

OH I have not jumped any ship, I support responsible breeders,that is where i got my wyatt

 

[Stacykins]

Maybe because down the road you'd be saving more puppies if that person didn't breed?
In certain parts of the country, the Northeast for example has a dearth of small cute dogs available so they are bringing them in from wherever, the south, overseas, etc. Then the selling price seems to be around $500.00.
Flying a puppy isn't cheap. I just did one for close to $300.00. Wouldn't it make more sense to go into these areas where there are too many dogs and open a spay mobile vet clinic, or spend the money in that area with low cost S/N?
Unfortunately some of the dogs being transported are being some of the parasites and diseases from their area with them.

Reminds me of the time a friend found a yorkie puppy in the dumpster in Alabama. On a boiling hot day, too. Dogs down south are more disposable than anywhere else in the nation, so a lot of them are adopted into the Northern states. She is such a sweet dog, I am glad she had no health problems from her ordeal.

Even with free spaying and neutering in the deep south, it will not help. People would not bring their animals in for altering. The time and effort to go 10 minutes to the spay or neuter location is too much effort for whatever mongrel they can shoot or abandon when it becomes a problem. And if you think that is extreme, it isn't. I have a few friends that work in rescue in the South, and the situation is abysmal.

 

[Finnie]

please do not try to blame your poor decisions on me : ), I can not wait for you to post a picture of the pup you got!!!

You seem to have misunderstood. I figured out the seller was probably a puppy mill, and I did not buy the puppy from them. If you want to see a photo of the puppy I eventually buy, you will have to stick around for some years, because I will wait as long as I need to for an honest breeder.

And I don't see how you think I am blaming you for anything. Don't worry about that.

 

[Finnie]

Reminds me of the time a friend found a yorkie puppy in the dumpster in Alabama. On a boiling hot day, too. Dogs down south are more disposable than anywhere else in the nation,...is too much effort for whatever mongrel they can shoot or abandon when it becomes a problem. And if you think that is extreme, it isn't. I have a few friends that work in rescue in the South, and the situation is abysmal.

That is so sad.

Unfortunately, it's hard to regulate people like that without hurting the honest people. I think we are always going to have the scum among us.