Human urine as predator deterrent?

What might be judged an `effective’ passive deterrent in a specific environment based on how predators `normally’ behave and respond, applied in another with the expectation of similar results, is folly. Predators learn. They will adjust their schedules accordingly and will come to ignore (bypass with caution) `stuff’, becoming habituated and, so, indifferent. You can be sure, if easy eats are available, they will learn to arrive at whatever time they assess dinner will be safely served. In the mid `80’s, in Columbia, MO. a rash of `burglaries’ took place in an area where many students attending MU rent. The `break ins’ took place between 1-4PM. The cops finally tracked down a `gang’ of raccoons (only two, but the media had some fun) that took advantage of there being few residents at home during those hours (all that cold pizza lying about must have been quite a draw). This past Friday our closest neighbor had all thirteen pullets rubbed out by foxes between 3-3:15PM (the wife had gotten home early and was inside cutting up a watermelon for the chooks and turks). She saw the fox taking off with the last pullet. There were no signs of struggle in the yard and if she hadn’t seen the fox it would have been as if the poor pullets had simply vanished into thin air (I finally found seven piles of SLW feathers, arranged in one small area, just yesterday, off back in the woods near the fence line – will be searching for the others this afternoon). I also found a den in progress and poured a gallon of old gas down it and jammed the jug down into it (didn’t burn it – nothing home). This morning I went out patrolling and the container was tipped out and the digging had resumed!
I set two modified snares and rigged a deadfall and am hoping at least one comes back

Coons will hunt during the day and, if foxes can tolerate gasoline fumes (even if filtered out through the rotted root tracks of the dead Hickory the den was located under), at this location, I’ll continue to put my money into adequate fencing, lead, and direct current.

Oh, the deer here are so `tame’ that shooting in their direction with a .22 or .380 in hopes that they will go bounding off into the woods is a waste of ammo (they just stand there and look at you). I use a .177 pellet rifle.

Best of luck no matter how hairy/p***y it gets!
 
Im not sure I would bank the safety of my animals on uninating outside. In the 2 years I have had my farm, I used the toilet only a couple times (for #1 folks, Im not a complete animal). Animals will quickly get used to the smell and it will be "normal" to smell the urine near your place but totally unnormal to smell it at other houses in its travels. If you get a different persons urine, it may unnerve the animal for a few days but unless it gets a negative reaction from comming in to smell the urine, it will go back to normal. The same would hold true if you start urinating outside if you havent before, short term deterant then back to normal. Animals adapt very well in these situations.

HTH
 
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Oh, not to worry - my place is like Fort Knox - double fence, electric lines, etc. I still have visitors, however, and it's unnerving!
 
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Understood. I was just pointing it out as it seemed as if some were saying it was a solution to a problem when its a temp deterant at best. I just didnt want to read a few weeks from now that somebody lost chickens dispite having had several people urinate around the yard thinking it was safe. Animals adapt quite well to human and preditor scent. They test boundries just like kids, and when there are no consiquences, they will continue on thier merry way.

HTH
 
One morning I went out to let the girls out and I noticed that something had tried to dig under the fence of my coop - we have tons of racoons in our area. Someone told me to take rags and douse them with PineSol and stick them in the corners of the coop. Apparently Racoons hate the smell of PineSol - its been about 2 months now and they have not come back! I usually freshen the rags about 1x a week or so to keep them nice and smelly
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PineSol - I'm going to give that a try as well...also I'm going to hang some on the handle of my garbage can.
 
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