Humane Trapping of Predators... I Am Confused

[FishinHank]

You want to make sure that trapping a predator is legal in your area before you set any traps. Most trapping seasons run from the fall to early spring and require a license to be legal. That being said, if I had any problems with predators in a coop I would do what was necessary to get rid of the issue. I trap for a hobby myself and I have gone to people to ask for permission to trap their land and been denied, only to get called back later when they were having problems in the summer months with animals getting into their stuff. I had to refer them to an ADC trapper as the season was closed and I wasn't permitted to do ADC work. It ended up costing them more $$ in the long run, and their tune changed the following fall when I asked again.

 

[nzpouter]

no population should grow un-checked... if the need to cull arises, do it quick, do it right.

I'm pro euthanasia, be it human or animals....

Trap and release is just a feel good method that achieve nothing but prove the theory "out of sight out of mind" is applicable to some people.

 

[FishinHank]

If anyone would like advice on how to catch a certain animal feel free to PM me and I will help you out as much as I can.

 

[Mike Winters]

as top predator i think it our job to remind animals lower in the pecking order (vermin like fox, coyotes, bear, whatever else wants to mess with my livestock) who is boss. fear and death are wonderful deterrents (that's what guardian animals are for to make other animals afraid to come closer). i don't see why people are afraid to exterminate a dangerous animal. look at all the lives saved in the long run by wiping out mountain lions form the east coast the few that do remain are so afraid of people that they refuse to attack people or livestock.

top predators don't tolerate competitors in there domain and it can be good in the long run. The return of wolves to Yellowstone helped raise the pronghorn and aspen tree population where they patrol by thinning out the coyote population removed the pronghorns top predator from areas letting them rebound. and aspen tree where able to grow thanks to wolves scaring the elk out of the young aspen groves.

 

[linkedsilas]

Mike
While I agree with your Yellowstone comment I really disagree with your Humans as top predators and keeping these animals in check.Your comment about the mountain lion is the same reason why half of the animals are on the endangered list. Look at the red wolf, people think they were man eaters and no attack on humans has ever been documented.They were completely wiped out on the east coast except for 14 of them that could breed 35 years ago.

 

[animals1981]

lol lives saved by wiping out mountain lions? look at statistics do u realize how many people cougars have killed in the past 100 years? might want to lok that up before you even think about saying such things mike winters

25 fatal atacks on humans in NORTH AMerica in the last 100 years !! id say the person living next to you is more likely to kill your wife than a cougar in the woods


. Compare that to how many dogs have been killed or worse how many people have been killed by hunters ? wow

 

[Beekissed]

u can relsease them on goverment land here in canada its all hills and forest mostly few farms here and there just dont let them go near a farm do it in areas where there is lots of bush miles of trails or even conservation land i dont know about america maybe u guys cut down all ur trees and have nothing left some of you act as though u have no other choice but to kill it. HEre we got tonnes of land and space to let things go. HOuses and areas are full of trees and forests not farms here no one cares if a fox or a coon is running on the street it is called NATIVE wildlife. Love how some people just love to move out into the bush and want everything to die around them might asw well turn it into a city also. Here you can hire people that will trap pests and re locate them. WE have plenty of space. THe world doesnt revolve around farmers.

Actually, the world's food supply does revolve around farmers...I bet you eat farm raised foods in 90% if not 100% of your diet.

We have plenty of space also but we also have plenty of predators as well~they are expendable....if you like, we'll ship them over the border into your less human-populated country.

 

[yomama]

no population should grow un-checked... if the need to cull arises, do it quick, do it right.

I'm pro euthanasia, be it human or animals....

Trap and release is just a feel good method that achieve nothing but prove the theory "out of sight out of mind" is applicable to some people.

I have to respectfully disagree with this. I think it really depends on where the re-release takes place. We had some mice in our heat ducts. We could hear them, and if you took off the register cover, there was mouse poop. I was so creeped out to have them in my home, but really didn't want to kill them. I know some would feel this is stupid, but that is how I felt. Not only that, but I was completely against poison, as I have outdoor cats, and if they eat a mouse that has consumed poison, that can also be toxic to the cat. I've seen how torturous the traps that snap down can be too, if they don't catch the mouse directly on the neck. Anyway, I convinced my hubby to try live traps. Guess what...they worked! We researched the proper way to re release, and found that as long as you go more than 30ft away from your home, they shouldn't return. Apparently their territory is within a 30ft radius. We are in the country, so we weren't dumping our problem in someone else's yard. That was a couple of years ago, and they still haven't returned. Also, neighbors live trapped a skunk that was harassing their chickens. They didn't have a truck, but we did. They asked us to re release it for them. We have alot of wooded area near a few different rivers around here, that do not have any homes around them, about ten miles away. We released the skunk out there. Pretty sure it didn't cause any problems out there. Again, though I know we still have skunks, they haven't had any bother their chickens in a long time.

 

[FishinHank]

Mice will travel way farther than 30ft...............

 

[nzpouter]

 


I have to respectfully disagree with this. I think it really depends on where the re-release takes place. They asked us to re release it for them. We have alot of wooded area near a few different rivers around here, that do not have any homes around them, about ten miles away. We released the skunk out there. Pretty sure it didn't cause any problems out there. Again, though I know we still have skunks, they haven't had any bother their chickens in a long time. 

like I said, out of sight, out of mind... think about this, the skunk you release/ the mice... do you know they are not dumped in other mouse/ skunk territory? if they are, what do you think will happen? if they survive the ordeal of establishing themselves in a territory/ being driven away by the original owner of the patch, what happens to the losers?

The only thing trap and release do is just making it harder for the next unfortunate people to catch the animals.