Humane Trapping of Predators... I Am Confused

[mixitup]

I know I'll get flak for this, but-There are predator/pest problems worldwide. Why did someone bring in 'my country is bigger than your country?' We all have our issues. Yellowstone wolves were wiped out for a few reasons-one mainly being humans. They were also restored by the relationship between two countries-the wolves were imported from Canada, I believe. And that is sad that we have to 'import' a species that was there naturally. There are many species that were wiped out by man simply because of misconceptions-and there still are in a lot of third world countries that believe in 'stories' from the elders. Mountain lions, bears, cougars, etc, generally do not attack unless they are threatened, protecting their young, sick, or injured in some way. Rarely, do they attack humans because of 'they have the taste of human blood.' This post is about trapping, humanely and what to do about pests. Historically, it has been shown, and proven, that you remove something from the food chain in a certain area, other populations grow out of control. Nature is about balance. Humans usually interrupt that balance. We encroach on nature and then expect nature to comply to our wishes. How many times have we seen foxes in the city? They have learned to co-exist with us and feed from our garbage rather than be frightened of us. In certain cases, there is nowhere left for them to go. We make it easy for certain creatures, such as rats, mice, raccoons, skunks, etc to live in cities because of our habits and lifestyle. We throw our garbage out like a buffet and then when they take advantage of our bad habits, we blame them for being in our way.

I am all for trapping and destroying in certain cases, but when you can't relocate something, or it comes back, it needs to be taken care of in a humane manner.

It's not about p***s size, it's about living with nature. This is all just my personal opinion.

 

[animals1981]

like I said, out of sight, out of mind... think about this, the skunk you release/ the mice... do you know they are not dumped in other mouse/ skunk territory? if they are, what do you think will happen? if they survive the ordeal of establishing themselves in a territory/ being driven away by the original owner of the patch, what happens to the losers?
The only thing trap and release do is just making it harder for the next unfortunate people to catch the animals.

Like i said before depends where you are from not all of us live in a concrete jungle or never ending farmland where the animal is going to go live in someone elses backyard some of us actually live inareas with lots of untouched forest and space and areas where no one cares if they see native animals walking down the street once in a blue moon. You dont see many chicken owners here at all. Only cat and dog owners. No one catches small predators in conservation lands or goverment owned property or private property you can clearly see the no tresspassing no hunting signs.

New zealand doesnt have native predators that i am aware of they are just introduced by man so i dont think relocation is an option.

 

[yomama]

Quote: Thank you. As I stated, where these mice and this skunk were released, there were no homes. I think I'd rather have that creature have a chance at living, than just killing it because it was bothering me. It wasn't out of sight, out of mind for me. I am very conscious and aware of the decisions I make, ( to a fault), especially when it comes the lives of other creatures. I'm very much pro euthanasia for animal or human. But if there is a good chance at survival,I think each creature deserves that. I knew there was a chance at introducing these animals into another's territory, but at least it had a chance at survival. I realize that life isn't a Disney movie and when we released that skunk, it wasn't going to find Bambi and Thumper and live happily every after. However, who am I to decide that killing an animal is better than allowing it a chance to survive? If this animal(s) were in any way compromised, then of course I wouldn't send it on it's way. We also have a wild life rehabilitation center here that will sometimes take in creatures, but they have to be native to Oregon. Many animals are re released, from bears to cougars to raccoons and so on. And these re releases are done by professional wild life agencies. Do you suppose they don't know what they are doing, releasing them in areas where there are the same type of creatures, or maybe they should just kill them all, since they "might" die anyway? I'm truly not trying to be argumentative. I just don't feel that killing everything that causes a problem is the right way to go.

 

[mossypath]

A wild life rehabilitation center has experts who hold licenses for specific types of animals and know to test for disease and have been trained how to handle animals. I think if you would ask one ( I have) they will tell you not to relocate .
Since we are talking about a skunk it takes a very special license,a person who has knowledge about Rabies. Something that has to be closely moderated for your famlys,dogs,cats and other animals health.
http://www.berrymaninstitute.org/pdf/skunks.pdf

 

[Amy S]

 

[Amy S]

Skunks have been known to travel up to 10 miles searching for food source and other accomodations.

 

[redhen]

I do think that sometimes its REALLY more humane to just kill the animal HUMANELY.. then let them go in a different area.
When you relocate them they need to find a new sorce of food and water(talk about terror and stress).. and will most likely HAVE to fight for territory.. most likely they will just be killed by fighting or die of starvation/lack of water...
Thats a hard way to die...
I'd rather see them just put down humanely.. Just my opinion..

But not to the extent of killing 70 of them in one year.. :/

 

[nzpouter]

 
Like i said before depends where you are from not all of us live in a concrete jungle or never ending farmland where the animal is going to go live in someone elses backyard some of us actually live inareas with lots of untouched forest and space and areas where no one cares if they see native animals walking down the street once in a blue moon.  You dont see many chicken owners here at all. Only cat and dog owners.  No one catches small predators in conservation lands or goverment owned property or private property you can clearly see the no tresspassing no hunting signs.

New zealand doesnt have native predators that i am aware of they are just introduced by man so i dont think relocation is an option.

no mention of native/ non native predators in the original post... anyway, as long as it's not a prtected species, it's fair game.

transporting an animal from one place to another is also a quick way to introduce diseases and parasites (don't know about your part of the world, but over here any movement of animals into and out of conservation land is strickly monitored).

 

[nzpouter]

 
I'm very much pro euthanasia for animal or human. But if there is a good chance at survival,I think each creature deserves that.  I knew there was a chance at introducing these animals into another's territory, but at least it had a chance at survival. I realize that life isn't a Disney movie and when we released that skunk, it wasn't going to find Bambi and Thumper and live happily every after. However, who am I to decide that killing an animal is better than allowing it a chance to survive? If this animal(s) were in any way compromised, then of course I wouldn't send it on it's way. We also have a wild life rehabilitation center here that will sometimes take in creatures, but they have to be native to Oregon. Many animals are re released, from bears to cougars to raccoons and so on. And these re releases are done by professional wild life agencies. Do you suppose they don't know what they are doing, releasing them in areas where there are the same type of creatures, or maybe they should just kill them all, since they "might" die anyway? I'm truly not trying to be argumentative. I just don't feel that killing everything that causes a problem is the right way to go.  

I believe that your local wildlife rehab ctr will have better knowledge about their local release area and it's population, the health of the animal to be released compared to the average pet owners with their fingers crossed hoping everything will go well....

 

[Ole rooster]

I too believe it trapping humanly. I set the mouse trap so the spring gets the mouse just behind the head. That way it snaps the neck and no flopping around. Everything else I shoot it. You folks are really funny.