Hybrid Pheasants

[bemba]

A friend of mine has just hatched some guinea eggs, but they are not guineas???? LOL Guineas penned with a white peacock and 2 peahens, 4 out of 10 eggs hatched so far are all pea - guineas (hybrids) And I personally have no problem with hybrids as they are sterile and cannot pollute bloodlines, plus most are VERY rare to start with....... For EG I've kept Guineas, Peafowl and chickens together for years and years and alot of them have been raised by other species and I've never bred a hybrid.

 

[De Wet]

A friend of mine has just hatched some guinea eggs, but they are not guineas???? LOL Guineas penned with a white peacock and 2 peahens, 4 out of 10 eggs hatched so far are all pea - guineas (hybrids) And I personally have no problem with hybrids as they are sterile and cannot pollute bloodlines, plus most are VERY rare to start with....... For EG I've kept Guineas, Peafowl and chickens together for years and years and alot of them have been raised by other species and I've never bred a hybrid.

some hybrids are fertile and that is a big concern...

 

[bemba]

some hybrids are fertile and that is a big concern...

Are you referring to fertile hybrids or crossbreds? eg a golden x ringneck is a hybrid but a golden x amherst is a crossbred, and if yes to hybrids have you got some examples of this?

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

Are you referring to fertile hybrids or crossbreds? eg a golden x ringneck is a hybrid but a golden x amherst is a crossbred, and if yes to hybrids have you got some examples of this?

There is much confusion with the terminology. In chickens, when a RIR rooster is crossed with a barred rock hen, the offspring are refered to as hybrid. But 2 black chickens crossed together makes a crossbreed.

I say any crossing of pheasants is hybridizing. The amherst and goldens are different species, not breeds. Sure they're related but so are horses and zebras. Look at some of the Lophura species, they can breed and create fertile offspring but they are obviously distinct species.

Reason # 1,000,000,028 why the English language is confusing, LOL

 

[bemba]

Yes it is! Chicken breeds are all genetically the same thing, all having one common ancestor, just like dogs.......so to call chicken crosses hybrids is incorrect IMO as they are just different man made breeds of the same species.

Goldens and Amherst are both roughed pheasants, so very much the same exept different colours etc IMO but yes different strokes for different folks, here in Australia we are very limited to what pheasant species we ahve access to, and alot are in serious trouble, so I frown apon people crossing goldens and Amherst here as there are so few as it is. At least with hybrids (my interpriation of sterile birds) they cannot reproduce and pollute a species.

 

[De Wet]

Are you referring to fertile hybrids or crossbreds? eg a golden x ringneck is a hybrid but a golden x amherst is a crossbred, and if yes to hybrids have you got some examples of this?

Ok understand what you mention here where does mutation fit in, is can breeding mutations(breeding with the same breed) also be a reason for extincion of pure species

 

[bemba]

Ok understand what you mention here where does mutation fit in, is can breeding mutations(breeding with the same breed) also be a reason for extincion of pure species

I don't think so, for example, if you had to introduce wild coloured captive bred birds into the wild because the species was struggling in the wild and these birds were split for god knows how many colours (great example - budgies) and they bred normals and various mutations, the mutations would be eaten by predators and so over time the mutations would naturally die out leaving only the best suited colour for comouflage etc. Thats why mutations pop up, it's like a test to see if that new colour suits the habitat better and if it does it takes over. Blue Princess parrots were first discovered in the wild here in Australia not in captivity. Just for an example.

 

[De Wet]

I don't think so, for example, if you had to introduce wild coloured captive bred birds into the wild because the species was struggling in the wild and these birds were split for god knows how many colours (great example - budgies) and they bred normals and various mutations, the mutations would be eaten by predators and so over time the mutations would naturally die out leaving only the best suited colour for comouflage etc. Thats why mutations pop up, it's like a test to see if that new colour suits the habitat better and if it does it takes over. Blue Princess parrots were first discovered in the wild here in Australia not in captivity. Just for an example.

wow the miracle of nature

 

[wildlifeartist1]

I have 17 different Crosses and Hybrid some are just 2 but many are 3,4,5 different pheasants in 1 bird

 

[Tony K T]

Much easier just to leave them pure.Then you don't have to figure out what % is this and what% is that!Plus they will be around for generations to enjoy them in pure form.In N.H.,Tony.