I am sick of it! *rant, vent and General yapping*

[debilorrah]

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You build you coop as predator proof as possible but nothing, repeat NOTHING is infallable.

Tell me about it!!! THere are literally dozens of finches i nthe coop with the chickens every morning.

 

[maplesky7]

EEEEEK Trolls!!

false alarm... it's only pirates.

 

[Cetawin]

Debi, Yeah how the heck do you stop them? I had two in there this morning. *sigh* I cannot find out how they are getting in...maybe through the chicken door in the evening and hanging out in the rafters at night?

 

[debilorrah]

I cant stop mine - we have chaing link with construction netting around it, so there are small holes. We need to work on it, but we are getting the babies all fixed up first. Oh well....

 

[DuckLady]

Thanks for bringing this up Cetawin.

Which is more helpful?

Scenario 1

OP: I have some raccoons inundating my property. What are some ways I can control this?
Reply #1: You can shoot it, trap it <insert helpful legal means of lethal control>.
Reply #2: You can trap it and contact a rehabber to see if it can be relocated. There is a rehab facility XX miles from your location at.... Or here <insert a link> is a site that you can look up options for other non lethal alternatives.
OP: Thanks for the advice, I will see what is best suited for my situation.
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Scenario 2
OP: I have some raccoons inundating my property. What are some ways I can control this?
Reply #1 Kill it! No stinking coon is going to live here! Skin it! Rip it's head off! Use a coyote trap!
Reply #2 OMG! It is a living thing! How could you!! Oh Horror Horror, It is only doing what is Natural! Just Relocate it! Don't KILL IT!
OP: I hate this place I am NEVER coming back!!
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I want to believe that no one here enjoys killing, yet some threads come across that way. It is equaly distressing to be lectured on looking for ways and means of depredation by people who don;t like it.

So what is best is to offer helpful advise backed with a way to assist the person asking for help.

If you are only there to fan the flames and stir the pot, don't bother. We already know who to look for and are watching certain people for patterns. If you can't be helpful, be gone from the P&P section. Just hit the "back" button.

No judging.
No flipping out.
No flaming.
No debates.

In fact, we are going to be even stricter in the P&P section, both ways.

The rules have been added to.
See updated rules here
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=42102#p42102


By the way, the answer is scenario #1.

 

[houndit]

Very well spoken rachel from the black lagoon I seldom go in the predator and pest section but when I have I have only seen people angry about the killing of animals not vice versa. However I am sure that it does happen. I know it used to bother me to when an old hen died, but now after raising several thousand birds it does not bother me. It used to bother me to kill a predator but after loosing 50 young pullets to a coon it does not. These pullets were in a Salatin type pen. with the dorr wired shut, electric fence all around it and she still got in. She crawled under the fence onto the pen and them lifted wedged herself through a spot where two sheets of metal joined. I just lost half our flock of young turkeys to coons. I have caught and disposed of 7 in 9 days. One of them after being caught in a live trap reached through the trap and tore the chicken wire in an attempt to escape. He tore a hole through new chicken wire nearly a square foot in size.

Edited to say Rachel I appreciate your polite disagreement!

 

[Boyd]

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Troll alert, I just ate all the pie... wait, that makes me a pig........

 

[GaNewChick]

I see the majority of P&P as being a biased and one sided section within this forum. I've seen advice given that was certainly worth questioning. I've seen people display their disagreement in a way that is no more disrepectful than previous posts ~ and those rules are whipped out as a reminder that *if you aren't on our side, then you are not welcome to post here* *this is the Predator & Pests forum, if you don't like it don't come here* I've seen people who have been members here for up to 6 months with over a thousand posts called a troll because they disagree. I have seen both sides be rude, disrespectful, and give advice that is highly questionable. A lot of these posts are not rude posts, I'm talking about people who question and disagree. I have seen the reactions here of *killing* like they are getting a high from it.

JMO...

 

[sesa]

I'd say that there are a lot of people that are very thin skinned and cannot stand to have their thoughts on a subject questioned, I mean really folks why would you care if some unknown person in cyberspace disagrees with you or thinks you are either an evil mammal murderer or a lunatic tree hugging peta member, Grow up and learn to ignore those posts that rub you the wrong way.

 

[Crystalchic]

catawin,
i get accused so much from my non chicken owner friends of being to cold or sounding very hard to them when i run out into my back yard with my rifle when i smell a skunk or hear a coyote or even the neighbors dog barking.
in all honesty i would prefer not to ever have to shoot them
but the alternative for me is to cry for weeks over my birds
my first kill was a terrible feeling for me.
just a few weeks ago i shot a skunk digging into my silkie pen
dummy me got sprayed, man did i reek for a week my silkies are all alive
but
my friends ask me to trap them and relocate them
that is putting the Predator on someone else
the predator that is coming onto our property to kill our birds at some point end up dead on the side of the road or eaten by another predator anyway
but i did learn to shoot shovel and shut up about it
this forum is the only place that i can turn to that understands why i have to sss
i posted a few weeks ago that my ten year old found my first rooster that i hatched dead in the pen with its head missing
we all know what predator did that