I did a bad bad thing.... but is it really the end??

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by PonyRyder, Oct 26, 2011.

  1. PonyRyder

    PonyRyder New Egg

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    Ok so I did a badddd thing.... I bought a few chickens from a flea market <wince> and now I am going nuts with problems. lice n mites...check CRD.... check and now from the looks of it I am dealing with wet pox. I have one poor baby girl that is sitting here on my lap right now with a swollen eye shut and snot running out her nose. I have been treating her for the last 5 days with vet RX and electrolytes in her water. and I mean treating her like drops up the nose, down the throat, on the back of the head and under each wing. She wasn't showing any signs of being ill when I started this BTW. Today I look at her and she has this eye (the size of a pea.) swollen shut. Of course some of my other girls are droopy and sniffling as well there is no real way to quarenteen just her and I figure at this stage of the game it may be too late.

    So if any of you can help me help her I would appreciate it.

    This is what I have done so far.... and this was for everybody....
    about a week ago
    worms..... ivermectin pour on 1/2 cc on the back of her neck
    lice and mites.... 7 dust... I do everybody every few months as well as the coops had a experience with stick tite fleas ugh!

    then I noticed I had a couple of snotty noses and sneezers
    Duramyacin ( If I mis-spell sorry I do have a chicken on my lap) everybody got it.
    Electrolytes in the water during the day in the outside pen.

    Talked to a chicken farmer who said kill the whole flock burn them and wait 30 days to start over..... really???? They have names! and there are 22 of them... well 20 now. Anyway there must be something I can do.


    Then he said " or you can try... " jerk... VetRX!
    So off to the feed store I went debit card in hand but smiling. 7.50 for a 2 oz bottle.
    did the up the nose down the throat thing it lasted 2 days. Back to get another bottle... 3 days cause I was more careful this time.

    The girls in the coop are going up and down good then bad... some quit eating altogether, some eat crumbles but no scratch. This morning I got up early and fixed breakfast not for my kids or hubby, or even myself come to think of it , but for my little feathered friends.
    Oatmeal searved warm with a honey drizzle. They LOVED it all ate but 2. My new "lap partner" and one other... at noon I came out again with another batch for lunch. My other one ate but still not this one.

    She is a fleamarket chicken but I am guessing a RIR about a year oldish
    Her poo I have no clue ,but most are runny
    her crop has food in it ( like I said she was pretty healthy just the other day)
    right now her eyes are swollen, one shut.
    her comb is pale
    she's gasping and I can hear her gurggling
    oh yeah and she has the nasty smell.
    and just now I gave her a shot of honey down her throat and put her in a basket

    Her coop is dirt floor with shavings ( pine low dust ) I live in Florida and we have had a horrible rainy season and I just cant seem to get the floor as bone dry as I like it. no standing water though. At night they all get into a little box and nest together.

    Was wondering does childrens cold remedies work?
     
  2. CMV

    CMV Flock Mistress

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    I'm sorry to say but your chicken farmer is likely right about culling the flock. Vet Rx. does nothing to cure CRD. It may ease the symptoms slightly, but that is it. Children's cold remedies contain ingredients such as acetaminophen, which is toxic to birds. Tylan 50 is the antibiotic of choice for respiratory ailments, but I can't help you with dosing because I never use it.

    You are going to need to make some hard decisions about the future of your flock. Good luck with that.
     
  3. top of the hill

    top of the hill Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm no expert in this, but a few people have posted about somthing called Oxine and how amazing it is at helping with respitory issues. search for it on BYC, you'll get a bunch of interesting info.
    Don't beat yourself up either, one look from those cute chicken eyes and you can't help but get hooked! [​IMG]
     
  4. dawg53

    dawg53 Humble

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    Gasping, gurgling, swollen eye, nasty smell, snotty nostril= Coryza. VetRx is useless against respiratory diseases. The farmer is right, cull and burn. Here's a link, scroll down to Infectious Coryza:
    http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
     
  5. ChickInDelight

    ChickInDelight Never an Empty Nest

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    I am SO sorry. My 4 chickens have names too.

    Mistakes are part of the learning process.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. ChickieBooBoo

    ChickieBooBoo Cold Canadian Chick

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    I agree with the above posters, culling is the only way to cure a respitory disease. Completely disinfect your coop and start over with chicks.
     
  7. Shayna

    Shayna I [IMG]emojione/assets/png/2665.png?v=2.2.7[/IMG]

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    Please consider reading the link I gave you on the other thread. I know it was really long, but gumpsgirl was able to save her flock from coryza. It details her losses, research, and treatment in great detail. It's worth reading before you cull your flock.
     
  8. SundownWaterfowl

    SundownWaterfowl Overrun With Chickens

    Quote:Yup, the farmer is right. Birds that get Corzya will remain carriers, spreading this to other birds. You won't be able to bring in any other birds, or sell any birds/chicks. Best to take the farmers advice. Sorry your dealing with this.


    Coryza is primarily transmitted by direct bird-to-bird contact. This can be from infected birds brought into the flock as well as from birds which recover from the disease which remain carriers of the organism and may shed intermittently throughout their lives..​
     
  9. PonyRyder

    PonyRyder New Egg

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    I just talked to my uncle in NY that is a avid and well respected pigeon racer. He gave me a few names of some "human" antibiotics that I can give them and said it should show signs in just a few days.... Fortunatally for my girls I just had a abcess tooth and the dentist perscribed a antibiotic that I cant take... twice... so I have enough to give them a boost and with some old school remedies like a capful of vinegar a tablespoon of honey and 2 drops of iodine to a gallon of water will purify their blood and with that info and the healthy serving of warm oatmeal drizzled with honey and mixed with yogurt which they ate like crazy (this made me smile knowing they had full bellies) They looked so much better! So prayers for my girls and lights out for tonight. Bet I will be out there first thing in the morning checking on them!

    On the culling part.... I have had a rescued horse that the vet has come out twice with euthinasia to put down and I refused to give up on him and he is alive and well today and fat as a tick! My best ride in my barn and all because I didn't give up when everyone else did. I have just these birds and no plans to bring in any new ones so if they make it yay for me and if they don't make it well I tried and they know it. I just can't give up if there is a slim chance that they will survive. I have raised most of these from an egg except for the few that caused the problem and even them I have grown attatched to in their short time they have spent here. They came to me for a reason. As long as they keep looking better and eating and drinking I will do whatever I can to help them.
     
  10. Shayna

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    I admire your persistance to try to get them better, and I really hope it works for you, even though the odds are against you. I strongly encourage you to separate the ones showing symptoms from the others somehow, using a dog crate or whatever needed for the sick ones. This will hopefully keep them from contaminating the enclosure and spreading the disease on to the others. Keep us updated, I have fingers crossed for you.
     
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