I have had it !!!

[hunter1hall]

Ok people, in my case, I reported multiple times about the attacks. All were noted by dispatch at the sheriffs department. The very department who suggested I use lethal force to stop ANY nusance dog from damaging any livestock ON my property. The dog owners were given written and verbal notice. Explain to me where I have acted in any way that might be improper? Research away. If I can't live in the country and enjoy my hobby farm then aren't I a prisoner already?

 

[OmaBird]

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Sounds like you just have a fued with a neighbor with lots of excuses. There is US mail you can write them a letter. Your turkeys should not be in his yard. You know he wants no trespassing. My poulty being out is a bigger fine where I live than a loose dog. I wouldn't want to have a nice garden and have some neighbors poultry come over and eat it all our leaving poop everywhere. Poulty wire is not preditor proof. There is alot of information on line of wayts you can preditor poof your pen. I use heavy gauges horse fencing around the turkeys and a chain link fence. So they are double fenced in. Good fences makes good neighbors. If something happens it is my fault. My new pen has cement around the bottom so nobody can dig in. The sides have wood 3 feet up and heavy gauge wire. If you choose to free range there is risk.

 

[byoung14ever]

Struttin1 I fully support your decision to do what you need to protect your property. I think it is silly for posters to say you should keep your turkeys out of the neighbors yard, yet you need to predator proof your yard against the neighbors dog? Kind of a double standard there. I would do what is necessary to protect my property ,animals and possibly children. People are on the dogs side till a kid or someone gets bit, then they flip sides.Do not wait until that happens. It is not your job to remind your neighbor to look after his dog. so many country folk think their dog should be able to run as he pleases, well its your dog keep it at home!!! I don't like dog crap in in yard and a dog will do as much damage to a garden as a turkey. He may not eat it but will trample it down. You should not have to pit-proof your property because of a lazy neighbor, DUMB suggestion!!! Its their animal not yours, their responsibility, not yours. If they can not take care of it then do what you need to do!!

 

[Jkioneil]

well i for one think there is more to this story than what we are being told. and it does not help that it is only one side of the story. sounds lke you like drama and war. so have at it. All you were looking for was confirmation that you should shoot someones dog. and some people have given it to you. . maybe if your turkeys were protected better you would not be having a war to begin with. i suppose you dont want to hear that in some ways you share a responsibility in this mess you are in. and that poor dog..who is being a dog..will pay the price. but if someone shot my dog without warning me they were going to do so... well, just be prepared for some battle lady thats all. if your not going to handle it like an adult then i suppose you get what you put into it. but you sound like you are in for some bad neighbor juju. good luck to you and your neighbor. thank goodness it is not me!
i am done with this ridiculous thread so say what you like:

my only point was simple kindness and respect goes a long way... stooping to others levels says a lot about character.

how hard would it be to tell the neighbor that if the dog comes back you will shoot it... allow them the chance to protect the dog just like you would have liked for your turkeys.

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

It's often funny how these threads take on a life of their own and people get so worked up about it. There are obviously two very differing views here and what it really comes down to is it's between Struttin and the neighbors. Let us know how it works out......no reason to fight over it.

Steve

 

[Struttn1]

Yeah Steve you know I do not recall a knock on my door and being told the turkeys were in his yard causing a problem before they were shot but I did let the guys dog walk away and have him warned. I have not had one problem with predators with these same pens. I don't know the guy and know nothing about the guy other than his name and where he lives. Before his wife left when we first moved in a pug dog showed up on our porch one night so I called the number on the collar and his wife answered and told me the dog was indeed hers and after that he came over quite often and caused no problem so no the neighbor and I had no prior issues before my turkeys were shot and yes I do have an opinion of what type of person he is from that point to now.

Shortly after the guy shot my turkeys we saw several vehicles including a deputy over there and stuff being removed from the house. I do know the chickens, the penned deer and the 4 or 5 dogs they had penned and apparently his wife were not there any longer after that.

I have not seen the dog in my yard since the officer went over and if it stays that way fine and dandy but if they turn the dog loose again and it comes over again I do what I have to do. End of discussion.

 

[moetrout]

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So what would you do if someone warned you and then your dog got shot in their yard the next day? Would that be justified at all in your mind or is it never ok with you? You seem to want it both ways and in real life it rarely works that way.

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

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The point is your turkeys were on his property and he did what he did. If his dogs come on yours do what you have to do. I'm not trying to start a fight but just so you know I am very touchy about my property. I spent 20+ years working and saving and dreaming for what we have now. I live off the beaten path by my choice, it's quiet and peacefull. I go to great effort to keep our dogs on our property and the poultry except for the peafowl are fenced in. When they wander out into the fields they get their wings clipped and put in the pens. The farmer doesn't care but I do as a responsable animal owner.

Steve

 

[thaiturkey]

Many people don't like other people's animals wandering around their property. I don't either. The guy with the vicious girlfriend's dog was already known to be an oddball. Any killer animal will attempt to get to poultry. So, it's simple; either the poultry owner keeps his birds in and other creatures out or he puts up with losses. If other dangerous animal owners don't respect the law, report them.

What disturbs me about this thread is the belief some have that the gun is the answer. Do people really wave guns around in their backyards close to where children may be playing or property might be damaged? Is it really OK to blast away near to neighbours? Is poultry so precious that human lives may be put at risk in saving birds from a dog? Is it good for children to see adults shooting animals in backyards? Aren't there laws to deal with these problems? I accept that gun ownership in the USA is usual but I'm talking about common sense. Blasting a neighbour's dog may cause injury to someone else and it might result in the neighbour doing the same to your animals. If he's a real nut job, he may come gunning for you. Do we really want a war started over a turkey?

I sense some anger in a few posts and the thought of that coupled with a gun in the hand is particularly scary.

Prosecuting Counsel: Why did you shoot that man?

Defendant: He shot my dog. It made me angry

Prosecuting Counsel: Why did he shoot your dog?

Defendant: I shot his turkeys. It made him angry

Prosecuting Counsel: Why did you do that?

Defendant: They were on my land. It made me angry

Prosecuting Counsel: So he lost his life and you will now lose yours over three turkeys and a dog and uncontrolled anger. You were in the wrong when you shot him but that is no consolation to the dead man or his family

Is that how it goes sometimes?

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

Well put Thai and sadly very true in the USA, pick a town and google the local newspaper from big city to small town the story is pretty much the same and happens over and over again.

It's a good thing we are civilized huh?

Steve