My BR Roo, Strangle, tried to become a poo, but I used Rooster Red's training methods on him, and then I penned him up when I penned up the two BA roo's that I sent off to meet the big coop in the sky. I dont know if he read the writing on the wall, or if he just wised up, but I had a change of heart when the folks came to pick up the extra roos and I spared him, and he has not even looked at a human cross-eyed ever since. He is good with the hens, and after he and the little Mille Fluer Duccle Roo had their initial dust up, he has left him alone and let him even have a couple girl friends,(and even though Duckie is tiny, he has gotten the job done), so I am glad I kept him because he is beautiful. My Brahma, Kumar on the other hand, is looking more and more like a Sunday dinner, he likes to peck and twist, and nothing has worked on him, and he is a big as Strangle, even though he is at least 3 weeks younger. BR's are pretty good fellas, but dont discount the bantys, they may be short, but they try hard.