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[tiki244]

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Lovely dog. Well with my advice for the submisive roll, I never touch the dog. Just a mild ksh and put hand out towards dog if it comes to where you need to. I never touched the dog. And that worked, but I suppose you need to do it in context.

 

[tiki244]

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Sounds like a good episode. I wish I had cable.

 

[redhen]

ooh tikki244..i'm sorry..i didnt see your post about the submissive roll..i just saw elitetempleton's..i'm sorry!..again..i meant no offence to anyone..

..lol...Wendy...p.s......also..tikki..YES....thanks he IS a lovely dog!!...he's been through alot..and we are really trying to give him a forever home..he deserves it.

 

[EliteTempleton]

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Thanks. I can't say I would try it with a St Benard either! lol

I've got a Jindo that my wife and I adopted while we were in Korea due to my time in the Military. So while I would not mess with him if he was not mine (the whole loyal guard dog thing is very accurate to describe mine) I am not worried about his 50lbs so long as he knows it's me doing it. I've worked with him since he was only roughly 6 months old(rescue so not sure).

and yes, I only use it rarely, re-reading my comment that may not have been as clear as I intended. I can only remember two times at the moment and I've had him for almost 3 years now.

Once was when he was still pretty young, I was testing/training him; I reached for a treat he had, so that if he ever got chocolate or something bad for him I knew he would give it to me, he growled, and then found himself under me and had to wait for like an hour until I gave the treat back to him. Then 15 mins later I took it again, without growl or resistance, and he got it back after he sat for me again. This is my first dog(*had one around the house growing up, but this is the first one that is actually mine) so I make no claims to be an expert, I just absorbed Ceaser at my parents house(I've no cable either) and applied what I could. Plus took what I knew about dog nature as well, and that one being the Alpha controls the food. To this day I can ask him to stop eating something anytime I want and have no resistance. Usually I test it by having him stop, and then adding a bit of a food, I guess as a reward for doing as I asked.

Which reminds me, another way we maintain Alpha is with any treats/human food, we have him do a command he knows to earn the treat but if its like whats leftover from dinner I have him sit and wait until I give the ok command before he is allowed to eat. Again, maintaining control of the food, and just like in nature they do not eat until we are done. A couple weeks ago I had to go to the bathroom so I just set the plate down and went to the bathroom, when I came back out he was sitting there, staring at the food, drooling a bit, I laughed, told him ok plus told him good boy and petted him some.

We do provide him free choice dog food, but we did it with all his food for a while when he was young, until I was confident he understood his place in the pecking order(lol), now we provide the dog food as free choice in case we are ever injured and cannot feed him, or for the rare times we have to board him. I'd hate to wake up from a coma or come back from a vacation and find out he died because he would not eat.

The other time was when the mailman tried to make nice with him, and offered his leg to sniff, well instead he lunged and luckily I had him on the leash and was able to pull him back and then had him on the ground. What is it with dogs and delivery people? Geez! I do sleep very soundly though, nobody is sneaking into my house at night, and if they do there will surely be a ruckus!

So, you might, in these first weeks, pay extra attention to which dog you are feeding and watering first and consider alternating daily, and consider having them sit and wait until you say ok before they are allowed to eat.

As far as rolling, like redhen said, I agree, only do it if you know you can/will win, only for ultimate punishment stuff, and only if YOU are comfortable with it. P.S. I see a loss as not really speaking of her turning on you, just that they get to do what they wanted to anyway. You described her as being non-human aggressive, so in your case it did not sound like winning would be an issue.

Then, once you get to the point of them getting along, hopefully you won't run across "those" people who let their dog roam off leash and tell you "it's ok, they just want to play..." when you are out on a walk. They would be at fault(even legally) but if a fight occurred it would likely undo much of your training/work.

Sorry so long...

 

[tiki244]

O thanks Wendy, no offense taken.

 

[tiki244]

Elite Templeton pretty dog. Sounds like you are doing a good job with him.

 

[gaited horse]

how is chey doing SterlingAcres can you send me a video of her behaver with zeoy. you don't mind me calling her chey right

 

[Katy]

Any updates on how Cheyanne is doing?

 

[Three Cedars Silkies]

The best thing you can do for BOTH of them is to crate train them. Most dogs love their crate after understanding that this is "home" and nothing happens while they are there.

That doesn't mean they have to stay in their crates all the time, but at bedtime and anytime they're feeling like they need to...they can go "home".

 

[Reinbeau]

I don't mean to argue, but I'm sorry, I just can't see where crate training is something a dog 'loves', anymore than saying cats are happier living indoors. It just isn't natural. Dogs want to be with their pack, locked away in a crate isn't being with their pack. I have no advice for Cheyene's owner other than to love her and find a way to better socialize her (which they are doing).