I want to encourage breeders to become N.P.I.P. certified.

[speckledhen]

I certainly understand that NPIP certification is no garuntee ( cant spell that) but I dont see how it is a bad thing.

I didn't say it was a bad thing, per se, just not what folks think it is.​

 

[Wifezilla]

NPIP, to me, gives a false sense of security to you and to the buyer of your birds/eggs. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it if it makes you feel better, but let's not give it credit for more than it was intended to do. I myself will not be participating in NPIP.

That!

I dont want the government knowing more about me than they already do,

And that!

I don't want the government to know ANYTHING I do in my backyard.

After hearing what they do to poor Amish farmers it scares me how much liberty we've lost in the last year alone.

And that too!

Boy you all saved me a lot of typing today. Thanks!​

 

[houndit]

Good feedback everyone. I should have clarified this in the first post originally. I was speaking more to the breeders who sell a lot of chicks and eggs. The person with chickens for eggs who does not sell many probably does not need to worry about it. A person who makes a business out of shipping eggs should be more concerned I think. Even if the government should not be regulating us so much right now they are. I feel better shipping things legally. So until we have a revolution I am going to be N.P.I.P. certified.

A lot of great comments were made! I do not think for a minute that I should let down my guard on how healthy our birds are! Some people might be tempted to but I will not.

 

[speckledhen]

I do not think for a minute that I should let down my guard on how healthy our birds are! Some people might be tempted to but I will not.

 

[Mrs MIA]

I just received my NPIP certification last week... first in the great state of Alaska.

It took over a year to get it. Not sure why, but after 3 submissions of paperwork and rounds of testing, I finally have it. Was it worth it? I'll let you know.

 

[yotetrapper]

Can you tell me houndit where you got this info that shipping eggs without a NPIP certificate is illegal? My PO knows I ship eggs every week and I dont have NPIP....

 

[Wheels]

Quote:
Will you tell me what liberty you loss?

 

[pips&peeps]

Quote:
Each State has it's own regulations for shipments of hatching eggs, chicks and started birds. Eggbid has a handy link here to check each State's laws:


http://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export/animals/animal_import/animal_imports_states.shtml

For instance, Virginia requires:

A. Pullorum-typhoid. Hatching eggs and poultry shall not be imported into the Commonwealth of Virginia unless such eggs or poultry originate exclusively from flocks participating in the National Poultry Improvement Plan (NPIP) or the National Turkey Improvement Plan (NTIP) (CFR, Title 9, Chapter I, Parts 1 to 199).

These programs shall be under the supervision of the official state agency of NPIP or NTIP, the livestock health official, or other authorized government agency of the state of origin certifying them to be free of Pullorum-typhoid.

B. Mycoplasma Gallisepticum. Hatching eggs and poultry shall not be imported into the Commonwealth of Virginia unless such eggs or poultry originate from flocks that are designated free of Mycoplasma Gallisepticum by the livestock health official of the state of origin. Each importer of hatching eggs or poultry into Virginia shall secure from the State Veterinarian an approval number, after having provided evidence that the flocks of origin are free of Mycoplasma Gallisepticum. This approval number shall appear on shipping labels or containers of each lot shipped into Virginia.

Utah requires:

R58-6-3. Certificate of Veterinary Inspection.
All poultry and hatching eggs entering Utah must have a Certificate of Veterinary Inspection or a National Poultry Improvement Plan Certificate and an entry permit; except birds for immediate slaughter consigned directly to a licensed slaughtering establishment. For an entry permit, this number may be called during business hours: (801) 538- 7164.

R58-6-4. Pullorum-Typhoid Rating for Imported Poultry.
A. No poultry, hatching eggs or baby chicks shall be brought, shipped, or otherwise introduced into the State of Utah by any person, individual or corporation that does not originate from flocks or hatcheries that have a Pullorum-Typhoid Clean rating given by the official state agency of the National Poultry Improvement Plan (NPIP) of the state or country of origin, or

B. Poultry entering Utah from a flock or hatchery which does not have a clean rating through NPIP certification must have been tested negative for Salmonella Pullorum, Mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG),M. synoviae (MS), M. meleagridis (MM), within the last 30 days.​

 

[houndit]

pips&peeps :

Quote:
Each State has it's own regulations for shipments of hatching eggs, chicks and started birds. Eggbid has a handy link here to check each State's laws:


http://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export/animals/animal_import/animal_imports_states.shtml

For instance, Virginia requires:

A. Pullorum-typhoid. Hatching eggs and poultry shall not be imported into the Commonwealth of Virginia unless such eggs or poultry originate exclusively from flocks participating in the National Poultry Improvement Plan (NPIP) or the National Turkey Improvement Plan (NTIP) (CFR, Title 9, Chapter I, Parts 1 to 199).

These programs shall be under the supervision of the official state agency of NPIP or NTIP, the livestock health official, or other authorized government agency of the state of origin certifying them to be free of Pullorum-typhoid.

B. Mycoplasma Gallisepticum. Hatching eggs and poultry shall not be imported into the Commonwealth of Virginia unless such eggs or poultry originate from flocks that are designated free of Mycoplasma Gallisepticum by the livestock health official of the state of origin. Each importer of hatching eggs or poultry into Virginia shall secure from the State Veterinarian an approval number, after having provided evidence that the flocks of origin are free of Mycoplasma Gallisepticum. This approval number shall appear on shipping labels or containers of each lot shipped into Virginia.

Utah requires:

R58-6-3. Certificate of Veterinary Inspection.
All poultry and hatching eggs entering Utah must have a Certificate of Veterinary Inspection or a National Poultry Improvement Plan Certificate and an entry permit; except birds for immediate slaughter consigned directly to a licensed slaughtering establishment. For an entry permit, this number may be called during business hours: (801) 538- 7164.

R58-6-4. Pullorum-Typhoid Rating for Imported Poultry.
A. No poultry, hatching eggs or baby chicks shall be brought, shipped, or otherwise introduced into the State of Utah by any person, individual or corporation that does not originate from flocks or hatcheries that have a Pullorum-Typhoid Clean rating given by the official state agency of the National Poultry Improvement Plan (NPIP) of the state or country of origin, or

B. Poultry entering Utah from a flock or hatchery which does not have a clean rating through NPIP certification must have been tested negative for Salmonella Pullorum, Mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG),M. synoviae (MS), M. meleagridis (MM), within the last 30 days.
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Thank you pips and peeps for that great information. I was just told by the tester yesterday that some states like Kansas and Iowa require you to have a permit to ship into their state. As long as you are N.P.I.P. certified they will issue you one. yotetrapper, the post office does not seem to care about your certification. Like I said I did it illegally last year. At first I did not know I was supposed to be certified, than when I found out I was not sure if I wanted to be certified.​

 

[EweSheep]

Well, I have gotten some private breeder's birds that are NOT NPIP certified and many of them chose NOT to be NPIP certified that has some excellent birds. They just don't want the government hand in it and like Cyn said, a false sense of security. Would I buy eggs from Cyn and other BYCers that are not NPIP certified? You bet! Most of the flock here in the US has been tested negative for those two diseases and so far no Avian Flu has reared its ugly head for a couple of years which I think it was all hype and we do not live in third world country.

I have shipped birds without NPIP and had NO problems. As the postmaster general inspector who is a very good friend of ours, said that they do NOT keep check on NPIP status on birds. Their job is to DELIVER the birds to their destination, that's all.

For the laws of VA and other states having restrictions, they can not stop all incoming or outcoming poultry from the state and its a moot point anyway.