Idaho?

[mbleily]

Ok thanks. I was just thinking maybe if I got an experienced rooster he might be more inclined to protect the youngsters from the neighbor's cat...but I think waiting will be fine. Just watched my little dwarf goat completely traumatize said neighbor cat while it was trying to use the corner of our yard. The fence needs washed. ROFL

You might not need a big rooster with the goat to help out. LOL

 

[mbleily]

So... need to vent....

We have ten acres east of town where we have all the animals.. It is in the county, zoned agriculture, etc... Since we have coyotes out there and raccoons plus the occasional black bear or mountain lion... we got a great pyrennees LGD.. We would take him out everyday before the fence was finished and since last fall when the fence was completed, he has been out there full time.. We have been transitioning him gradually into full time LGD mode so kept him in the barn except for when we were out there.. The last week or so, coyotes have been seen in the field next to us and since the goats, ducks and pigs are all outside, I decided Porter had "graduated" and started leaving him outside all the time on Saturday.

Last night I got a call from a sheriff's deputy, seems the neighbor to the north... (their house is at least 700+ feet from our barn) called to complain about Porter barking. He was going to issue a citation for disturbing the peace!! I informed him that Porter was an LGD doing his job and that his barking was exempted by the State Right to Farm laws even if there was a county ordinance against barking (which there isn't).. He backpedaled a little saying he didn't know anything about ag law and would send it to the county prosecutor for review..

I texted the neighbor and apologized but reminded them about Porter being an LGD etc... ( I had taken Porter over to introduce him to the neighbors a year ago) they texted back complaining that about all the noise at "our ark" from the ducks and pigs.. said it wasn't fair that we built an ark and didn't live there to hear all the noise. (these same neighbors complained to my inlaws about our roosters crowing last summer). I told him that we wanted very much to build and move out there.. he responded that he couldn't wait to creat a lot of noise for our housewarming..

I took a copy of the State Right to Farm act, an actual case in Oregon where LGDs barking were upheld as being covered by the Right to Farm act and a brief summary of LGDs to the Sheriffs office this afternoon. We'll see what happens..

I don't want to be a bad neighbor or annoy the neighbors, but I don't want anything to happen to our livestock. We lost over a dozen chickens last year before taking Porter out there. We'll be having baby pigs & baby goats starting next month and definitely don't want to lose any of them. Our property is surrounded by farms.. cows in every direction (which will be noisy again this spring when they wean the calves), dogs, horses, emus, sheep, pigs, llamas, goats... just about everything you can imagine animal wise. With that comes periodic noise, smells etc.. but is a big part of why we want to live out there.. It just chafes me that someone would move out there and then complain about the noise or smell!!

Anyway.. thanks for letting me vent!!

What a pain people can be. I hope it all works out for you. I am sure it will.

 

[Daloorashens]

Oh man birdguy, that is frustrating! Reminds me of all those people from Cali moving to tetonia and then getting mad about how the garbage pickup and snow plowing was, in a RURAL county! Sheesh.. I personally enjoy all the noises farm animals make, its part of what makes them enjoyable to have... I really hope you can work something out with them, maybe you should gift them a peafowl, lol.. ok, maybe that won't work, maybe some of that delish pork meat you're going to have... black bears and mtn lions have been seen out there? Yeesh, it's not really that far from my house, lol!

had to take a pic of the eggs from my laying flock today... reminded me of spring...

 

[La Casa de Pollo]

Gift of peafowl>? Haha! The gift that keeps on giving, and giving, lol that was pretty genius! It could be like a devious plot in the night, leaving several on the porch....Oh my goodness Mesha you are brilliant, I love it!

 

[mbleily]

Oh man birdguy, that is frustrating! Reminds me of all those people from Cali moving to tetonia and then getting mad about how the garbage pickup and snow plowing was, in a RURAL county! Sheesh.. I personally enjoy all the noises farm animals make, its part of what makes them enjoyable to have... I really hope you can work something out with them, maybe you should gift them a peafowl, lol.. ok, maybe that won't work, maybe some of that delish pork meat you're going to have... black bears and mtn lions have been seen out there? Yeesh, it's not really that far from my house, lol!

had to take a pic of the eggs from my laying flock today... reminded me of spring...

lovely eggs. and yes a peahen would really raise the sound level at their house. LOL

 

[thebirdguy]

Gift of peafowl>? Haha! The gift that keeps on giving, and giving, lol that was pretty genius! It could be like a devious plot in the night, leaving several on the porch....Oh my goodness Mesha you are brilliant, I love it!

Well.... I already had plans for about a hundred roosters plus turkeys free ranging in the north pasture this summer... we've talked about getting a couple peacocks for years... maybe this is the year to hatch a few...

The part that bothers me the most (other than the whole move to the country and complain about it being too country thing).... They have a little dog that is never leashed, they don't have a fenced yard at all. Last summer before Porter was out there, their dog was constantly all over our property.... never hurt anything as far as I know but was always there.... I'd bet even odds that one of the things Porter is barking at is their dog coming over to our fence.... One other thing, ever since they moved in, their horses would "accidentally" get out into my in-laws pasture (always seemed to coincide to when the neighbors were out of feed)... They see no problem with any of this but my dog, ducks and pigs are too noisy!!!

 

[Mo5C]

I totally agree with you two, if you don't like the noise and smell that comes with living in the country by farms then move back to the city, I hope you don't get into any trouble thebirdguy over the barking and that the proof that you took in helps take care of it, sometimes neighbor's can be such a pain.

 

[Mo5C]

I don't kill them anymore myself. I am not as active as I used to be. getting older. lol My son lives with us and he does the killing and skinning. He doesn't like to pluck so I let him do it his way. It is better for canning without the skin anyway. They cook good in the slow cooker skinned too. Just not too good to fry. It needs moisture. Just like the rabbit. I love rabbit too. We used to raise them and goats when the kids were younger. We had 25 goats at one time. I love working with them.too.
You roo is lucky they don't think of him as too injured.

About the house. It is better for the hot and cold weather. We went to Australia years back and lived in the out back for a month in and underground house. That is what got us interested. I designed the house and my husband and family built it. It has windows in the front so it isn't totally underground. It is an open design so it is easy to heat. We use only one wood burning stove in the house and this year we used the wood stove in the greenhouse as well. It was colder this year then usual here. You can see the pictures of the house being built http://www.bleilysgems.com/housepictures.htm This has a lot of pictures. Not of it finished though. I have been looking for that picture and haven't found it yet. sigh. Never remember where I put things on this computer that has soo many folders on it.

Those pictures look awesome, hopefully you find the picture, I would love to see the finished product.

 

[Daloorashens]

Well.... I already had plans for about a hundred roosters plus turkeys free ranging in the north pasture this summer... we've talked about getting a couple peacocks for years... maybe this is the year to hatch a few...

The part that bothers me the most (other than the whole move to the country and complain about it being too country thing).... They have a little dog that is never leashed, they don't have a fenced yard at all. Last summer before Porter was out there, their dog was constantly all over our property.... never hurt anything as far as I know but was always there.... I'd bet even odds that one of the things Porter is barking at is their dog coming over to our fence.... One other thing, ever since they moved in, their horses would "accidentally" get out into my in-laws pasture (always seemed to coincide to when the neighbors were out of feed)... They see no problem with any of this but my dog, ducks and pigs are too noisy!!!

How is it that in stories like these there's an unusual amount of hypocrisy going on, actually, it's pretty sad when you think about it, brother..... I say bring on the peacocks!!

 

[pawtraitart]

How is it that in stories like these there's an unusual amount of hypocrisy going on, actually, it's pretty sad when you think about it, brother..... I say bring on the peacocks!!

Oh yeah! By comparison a barking dog is NOTHING to a peacock. LOL