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[BeccaSmith]

My broody 27 week old hen decided to show up again yesterday and then went back into hiding. We hadn't seen her for a week at least. Hubby finally found her nesting spot under a tarp that we use to cover our firewood pile out in the field. We didn't think she could get into it. There were 21 eggs total, all un-fertilized of course. Several of the eggs were broken and there were maggots feeding on them. We picked all the eggs up and cleaned up the nasty mess and made it to where she could no longer nest there. She seemed pretty heart broken last night and was wondering around nervously not quite sure what to do. I took her inside until it was time for the auto coop door to close and then put her on the roost with everyone else. She seems to be less heart broken today but still acting broody. Hopefully she won't be stubborn and find another nesting spot! Also upon inspecting her I thought I saw a mite on her near her vent, would that be normal to see during the day? I thought they only came out at night. It looked like a small bright red dot running around on her. I've been battling with lice (took in two chickens with out quarantining last year that I think may have brought it with them...lesson learned.) and haven't been able to get rid of the lice. I've used Prozap Poultry and Garden Dust and dusted twice at about 7 day in between, it seemed to work at first but I continue to find eggs at the base of the feathers. So if anyone has any recommendations on what might work better I would appreciate the advice!

 

[SusanRenee]

I haven't had to dust yet, but I've heard a lot of people use Sevin. There's also this learning center article!

 

[SusanRenee]

Well, the eggs are in, and tomorrow I'll be heading over to the fair to check them out! I happen to know I already won Grand Champion for my spinning though! WHOOOOOP!!! Pays to work at the fair entering the judging Had to keep it quiet until it opened today... SO HARD!! Cool thing is our fair pays for prizes, so I'm up $15 in prize money already. I figure with working in the office between the pay and free tickets and the prize money, my fair experiance will cost me nada this year!!!

 

[BeccaSmith]

I haven't had to dust yet, but I've heard a lot of people use Sevin. There's also this learning center article!

Great article and congratulations!

 

[Daloorashens]

sorry, darn auto correct changed the name of the city. im from burley.

Welcome!!!

Good luck in your quest... They'll come around, if you are persistent, I'm sure, the same thing happened here in Ammon, where I live...they are legal now, but whoever did it was very persistent about it.. Funny thing is, I grew up here and where my parents live they could have all kinds of livestock and so I didn't even think about it being an issue when I moved back to Idaho and was hoping to get chickens... I figured the whole place was zoned for them, but the newer subdivisions had different zoning than the older ones, hence the ensuing "fight" which was won and so now my chickens are legal, haha well. sort of, depending on what kind of chicken math I do, lol

 

[harleyguy927]

I worked my butt off, but just couldn't muster any support. Kinda funny how a farming community refuses to allow chickens. Even the mayor said he hates chickens and the people who have them. He also said that if he ever found out his neighbors had chickens he would shoot them. (The chickens)...lol there are a lot of people around here who have chickens but they didn't want to speak up and rock the boat. So I told the council to stick it in their ear I was gunna have my birds legal or not. And guess what? You can legally raise game birds in town but not chickens!!! So I have my small flock, 6 hens. The neighbors know I have them and they don't care. My birds are quiet, have little smell, and are well cared for. The neighborhood kids come ove to look at them and pet them. I give them eggs to take home to eat. And share the dishes I make from any birds I butcher. Ya my neighbors don't mid my chickens.

 

[Chickenhill]

My broody 27 week old hen decided to show up again yesterday and then went back into hiding. We hadn't seen her for a week at least. Hubby finally found her nesting spot under a tarp that we use to cover our firewood pile out in the field. We didn't think she could get into it. There were 21 eggs total, all un-fertilized of course. Several of the eggs were broken and there were maggots feeding on them. We picked all the eggs up and cleaned up the nasty mess and made it to where she could no longer nest there. She seemed pretty heart broken last night and was wondering around nervously not quite sure what to do. I took her inside until it was time for the auto coop door to close and then put her on the roost with everyone else. She seems to be less heart broken today but still acting broody. Hopefully she won't be stubborn and find another nesting spot! Also upon inspecting her I thought I saw a mite on her near her vent, would that be normal to see during the day? I thought they only came out at night. It looked like a small bright red dot running around on her. I've been battling with lice (took in two chickens with out quarantining last year that I think may have brought it with them...lesson learned.) and haven't been able to get rid of the lice. I've used Prozap Poultry and Garden Dust and dusted twice at about 7 day in between, it seemed to work at first but I continue to find eggs at the base of the feathers. So if anyone has any recommendations on what might work better I would appreciate the advice!

Becca glad you found her and her nest! The whole maggot thing is a unfun sight to see. Sticks with a person...ewwww

Lice - Mites- Worms - We had some older chickens shipped in, they had a SUPER bad mite problem. I tried Zone from Zamzows and Seven with not much luck. I found some folks on here that swear by Adams flea and tick spray for dogs. That does work wonders and the chickens seem fine with it. We also worm them with Ivomec for cattle (D and B supply has it) That kills all external and internal parasites then we spray the adams on them once a week for two weeks. I will post the article that got us started using Ivomec....

 

[Chickenhill]

Topic
Topic : Worming Chicken
By: Anthony Kimbrough of G&K Exotic Farms
One of my best friends Glenda Heywood of NPN, called me up and asked how I worm my chickens. I am
asked this frequently and I think that worming is a very important part of health. First off let me say that this
is how I do my flock and have done so for many years successfully, if you have a way your more comfortable
with or different that's fine, this is what works for me and my birds.
I seldom worm more than twice per year on birds that are in pens off the ground and three times per year,
unless a very wet season on birds on the ground. I never worm my free ranging birds. I break my birds into
6 categories. Ground Pen, Air Pen, Free Range, Gamebirds, Chicks and Waterfowl. I believe that it is
most important to realize that the same chicken in different pens have different risk factors, therefore
having different needs. As usual, it's long winded and covers different aspects. To do something is human, to
know why is human being.
I use Ivomectin, just by choice. There are generic versions of Ivomectin and they probably work just as
well. The story behind that is another story. I use only the injectable version as it mixes with water verses the
pour on that is oil based and will float to the top. I use Cattle just because even the smallest bottle will do
more birds than I have, even if I do it twice a year and since I have cows...well you can figure that one. Except
we haven't had to worm our cows in 9 years. Then again we don't overgraze or feed any commercial feeds,
no stimulants. I use this method and have years because it works for me. I haven't a lot of time to do so I have
to do a lot in little time and do it correct the first time.
Birds free ranging have access to many different natural wormers, but
mostly, they are not treading the same ground as frequently. Basically they are not confined to a particular
spot. Worms and bacteria are not as prevalent on less trafficked soil due to less build up, less chance of
stepping into their own feces or even worse, someone else's. Free ranging birds might get a treat in the
summer, but they forage the natural way, I don't feed them commercial feed, except in winter. Also it is hard
to worm a free range bird. Nature has instilled a certain intelligence into all the creatures. When given the
chance the animal or bird will revert back to a few natural built in instincts. I often wonder if humans would
not revert back, but then again yes, that is the survival instinct. The survival instinct that is built in everything
has a few, but simple rules that we and our friends follow unknowingly. One of these rules is STILL WATER.
They may not know why they no longer will head for an artificial waterer but they follow the instinct of
avoiding still water. Still water in the wild can mean certain death. Still water stagnates and although it may
be fresh, the preference will be to go for moving water first, large bodies of water second. Nature will also tell
an animal what is needed and when.
Ground Pen birds are a bit different. They are forced to drink from this
small source and it becomes ok as they learn that living in this smaller world changes the rules. Still I wonder
if somewhere deep inside, that fear awaits. Maybe nature takes a break and then again...maybe they trust that
we, if being a creature of superior intelligence are going to be responsible enough to contain are responsible
and care enough to provide clean, fresh water. I worm these usually 3 times at the most per year. In the fall I
use Sheep Tramisol. 1 pill (bolus) per gallon of water. I place in one day and take out the next. That's it. I
don't want the birds to think anything different. I don't make them do without water as this can cause
undue stress. In the Spring I use Ivomectin injectable for cattle, not pour on. I use it at 1 1/2 cc per gallon.
Same scenario as with the Tramisol. No special prepping. I place in in today and take it out tomorrow.
In between? I use either one or Horse Panacure. I use this at 1 to 1 1/2 cc per gallon. This is the liquid type,
not paste. I'm sure that the paste would work except I have never taken the time to figure the dosage.
Again, same prep as before mentioned. I personally don't worm any more frequently because worms may build
up a tolerance to the wormer. For that reason I also stagger the type used.
Air Pen birds I use the same wormers, yet only twice a year. If your pens have
wire floors, flies controlled respectably, clean air (either throw lime of shovel from under pen occasionally)
and clean water, proper feed the exposure to worm causing agents is decreased quite some lot. I use the
same dosage as for ground pens and the same methods.
Waterfowl since I don't breed them pure in captivity, you'd be better off
asking someone that focuses on waterfowl. Many things can be toxic to waterfowl that aren't to poultry. At
one time we raised several varieties of ducks and geese in pens and I never wormed them. Waterfowl
was primarily a sideline interest. Most I bred was domestic breeds. Only for a while did I get Wood
ducks, Mandarins, Marble Teal. Although beautiful and interesting, my interest was deferred to poultry
and gamebirds and brooding ducks, quail and pheasants don't work well. I was too stretched to do anything
good. Now I have about 100 or so ducks and about 10 domestic geese ( looks like more at feed time). If you
are considering rare or unusual waterfowl do yourself and the bird a huge favor and seek the advice of
an experience, successful breeder that mainly focuses on that species. Most larger or rare waterfowl breeders
will have few if any poultry and or gamebirds.
Gamebirds are pretty much for us in the same category as the Ground Pen
birds. Pheasants don't do well in Air Pens, nor do the look as pretty. When I raised Quail I only wormed
with Piperzine 17 %. Other than a few button quail, we got out of quail years ago. Sometimes I miss them,
even the Tn. Red. Pheasants I treat as prescribed for ground pens. There are many great places for
information. Dr. Leland Hayes at http://www.lelendhayes.com/ has special forums for gamebird breeders. Also
one excellent book, "Upland Gamebirds".
Chicks I treat different than adults. Worming is hard on the system. I worm all chicks
with Piperzine 17% at 1-2 weeks old. I do this about every other month until 6 months old. These little
fellows should not be exposed to much and so harder wormers should not be needed or used. If you are
having troubles that the Piperzine17% can't fix...you've got troubles. The worms are either the least of
your problem or leading the way for a lot more to come. My chicks are always on wire floor brooders. Yes I
sell breeders and do recommend commercial ones for gamebird brooding with red or blue lights (dim). I
use homemade built ones as much as commercial built ones. Cuts down on mortality rate, especially
bobwhite quail. Homicide is a large factor if the rules are not followed in all chicks. I use Piperzine 17 % at 1
cap per gallon or 58 oz jar. Not scientific, but it works.
NEW BIRDS should not only be quarantined from the flock but also in my
opinion wormed about 2 days after arrival. Since you didn't worm them yourself, assume that they are
infested, their probably not, but better safe than sorry. If a bird or animal is infested bad enough and you kill
all the worms at once you risk loosing the patient. Take it from me on that one. When I was a kid, been
there done that with a calf. The worms can ball chocking or stopping up the rear. Secondary infection is also
very possible and probable. Cut the dosage in 1/2. Wait a week. During this week give Vitamins/Electrolytes
and Terramycin. Then after a week do 1/2 again. wait another week or maybe even 2 this time then use a
full dosage. Terramycin is a broad spectrum antibiotic that will fight secondary infection. The Vitamins/
Electrolytes will help to maintain a level of homeostasis. These are to given in the water.

 

[lilwhispers]

I worked my butt off, but just couldn't muster any support. Kinda funny how a farming community refuses to allow chickens. Even the mayor said he hates chickens and the people who have them. He also said that if he ever found out his neighbors had chickens he would shoot them. (The chickens)...lol there are a lot of people around here who have chickens but they didn't want to speak up and rock the boat. So I told the council to stick it in their ear I was gunna have my birds legal or not. And guess what? You can legally raise game birds in town but not chickens!!! So I have my small flock, 6 hens. The neighbors know I have them and they don't care. My birds are quiet, have little smell, and are well cared for. The neighborhood kids come ove to look at them and pet them. I give them eggs to take home to eat. And share the dishes I make from any birds I butcher. Ya my neighbors don't mid my chickens.

Harleyguy I sent you a pm.
I will paraphrase I am also working on that same subject in Burley as well. The mayor is NOT against it, in fact he has asked me to work on getting more supporters before approching the council. We need to get all our ducks in a row so to speak before we go before the council. I showed him the flyer from 1918 that states every family should have 2 hens for each person in the family. he kinda got excited and asked me to get things together. He even brought me other cities ordinences to pull info from. One person isn't going to make the council change the law. We need as many as we can find. I have seen many "illegal" chickens running around town. There is even a pig very close to my house. You and I need to talk because this need to be addressed again.

While on this subject with in the last week or so on facebook there was a post on silliest reasons not to allow chickens within city limits and also gave a good argument to counter the excuses does anyone know where to find it please let me know.

 

[Delilah1337]

Who's going to the North Idaho State Fair? Im so excited to go tonight! Maybe I'll see some of ya there