ID's for two blue Silkies and one red Frizzle!

[pdsavage]

Any breed can be frizzled as its a feather thing not a breed thing.I could make frizzle EEs,RIRs or any breed even frizzle Sumatras.

 

[KansasBoy]

I totally get that and did prior to the post, the question is what is mine... I bought this bird locally at six weeks old (craigslist) and know nothing else about it!

 

[KansasBoy]

BUMP

I'd really like to know what breed this little frizzle is!

 

[ChooksChick]

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By the size and stance, I'd have figured Cochin, but because I can't see the legs, I'm not sure if it's a poorly feathered Cochin or something else. Does it have any shank feathering at all? Is that a solid red, or is it dusted with black?

 

[KansasBoy]

Solid red, new feathers coming in on back are a little darker now but not black! Legs are totally 100% featherless!

I have noticed it's hardly growing compared to the silkies who seem to be passing in size! That could just be me though... He might have gotten a little bigger... Hard to keep track of when everything younger is about to outgrow these three any day (@ half the age) lol

 

[ChooksChick]

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I would guess, then, that it's a Serama cross. The solid yellow skin, the clean red color...it really isn't sensical, unless someone had a very clean reddish Serama line going, which I'm not aware of...but it could be going. Did the person you got them from have anything to say about their stock?

Feathered legs are dominant, so having clean legs is almost certainly intentional, so I'm again thinking Serama...but RED!? Haven't seen one yet!

Hold on to that sucker, because you may be able to work with it. I know RevolutionMama has lots of Seramas, and you could probably get some smooth Wheaten pullets from her to start playing with.

It won't do to breed him to the Cochins, as you'll diminish their leg feathering, and potentially their cushion (the rumpy puffy tail). What kind of a tail does this guy seem to be developing? If it's Serama blood, it should be straight up like it's trying to aim for his head. If it's of Cochin blood, they'll be floppy and tip over, spilling behing him.

ETA- Males tend to develop tails more slowly than females, so it's possible in the shots he's just slow in his tail growth, but to me he looks like a Cochin excepting the leg feathering. He would be a good way to get into the red Serama business, but it would take 4 or 5 generations, at least. I wonder whether he's not some Old English Bantam over Cochin? Very odd. Do correct me if I'm wrong about the tail being more of a cushion.

 

[KansasBoy]

The guys I bought him from was "selling him for a friend", this guy is apparently in north Topeka somewhere and hatches, raises his trades and sells what he doesn't keep! Silkies came from the same place, he had tons of different birds... But only said he knew very little about each as he was just helping liquidate! I caught up with him at the last swap meet... So guessing he'll be at the one Sunday, I'll just hav to see if I can get more information outta him maybe! If I remember correctly (it's still raining so the coop is locked down still) his tal feathers kind of create a separate tight "ball" of feathers at his rear! Pretty much carries the same horizontal line as his back does!

 

[ChooksChick]

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Well, that really sounds like a Cochin who for some reason just decided to have bare legs. If he's got other good qualities, it wouldn't be so bad to breed him to some smooth Cochin hens (you never want to breed frizzle to frizzle or you get a bad thing: a Frazzle!) and see if their leg-feathering doesn't just overcome his fairly easily. It could happen.

 

[KansasBoy]

Okay kinda makes sense, kinda explains why so mich of him was "naked" when I got him too I guess! Thanks!

 

[KansasBoy]

Well I was just out spoiling everyone with yogurt and half frozen watermelon and realized the silkie with the black head is 100% roo! He's gaine large waddles and the start of a good comb! Looking kinda like my bearded buff (minus the beard) roo! Jury is still out on the other though, still has small waddles like my buff hen, but way less feathering on top of it's head! I'll post new pics soon!