If you thought about getting a pet, adopt from a local shelter! Shelter Pets need you!!!!!! Please Help!!!!!

[Goatlover223]

Go ahead, I could care less if this thread got shut down. Last thing I need is Anti-breeder people shoving misinformation down peoples throats.

Thank you for saying that so much misunderstanding with what happens with breeds!

 

[chickentrains]

Yeah, I've looked at dogs on the shelter's website and most of them have specific requirements.
Like no children, or no other pets, or doesn't do well around people or other dogs.

Yep! this is exactly why not everybody is equipped to own a rescue dog..

they are HARD dogs to own, with so many unknowns

I plan to rescue, train, and rehome dogs in the future. In no means do I hate rescues, but by spreading information that if you don't adopt you are a awful person, your getting more dogs killed, sorry.

when people are pressured into adopting, they may end up with a dog that has serious issues (rescues lie, you know? they lied about my dogs, they said they where dog friendly, then my dog attacked a little dog and almost killed it). Sending dogs home to homes not a equipped for doing extensive training, just causes more issues.

my two cents.

 

[arwoon]

you don't own this thread, therefore you have no power to close and lock threads. There is nothing but educating being done here. I have strong feelings too, guess I get to threaten to close and lock threads now too!!

I have noticed that this is a very sensitive topic. I would appreciate if people would try not to overdo everything, the start of this thread was to raise awareness on that whether dogs need help. Not to argue which is better! Some want pure breeds, some cute mixes. That is ok! Just don't get too hot and offensive, ok?

Be nice! (Both sides!)

 

[EverV]

A pre written thingy that I wrote :


Why we shouldn’t hate dog breeders

Most people have the mindset of “Adopt don’t shop”. A saying to help shelter dogs and cats get adopted. But why not shop? Why can't people find a breeder who breeds a dog with the temperament that best fits the family?

Before I continue, we must address the three types of dog breeders. The backyard breeder (byb), Puppy mill, and reputable breeders. A backyard breeder usually owns a LOT of dogs, and breeds designer dogs, dogs for pretty colors, purebred dogs to a smaller size, ect. These types of breeders do not do any health testing, and are just breeding for the money. This breeder may pose as a reputable breeder, and may or may not raise and keep their dogs inside their home, with good treatments. But, you shouldn’t support this sort of breeder because the wellbeing of the puppy doesn’t matter to them, they just want money, and the health of their puppies is unknown. The puppy mill breeder is a breeder who breeds lots of breeds, in small dirty confined places. These dogs are often neglected. A puppy mill will most often supply pet stores with puppies. These dogs have no health testing, and there are several reports of pet store puppies coming home with parvo, respiratory disease, and many more illnesses.

Now, the gold star of all three of these breeders. A reputable breeder. This type of breeder either breeds for the working ability of the dog, such as German shepherds for Police work, or Border collies who excel in herding. And conformation, to follow the breed standard of the dog, to produce quality dogs.Reputable breeders, while they may have a main focus of one or the other, should maintain the conformation, and the breeds original purpose (herding, freighting, or being a guard dog). These breeders will title their dogs in show and sport (titles are like rewards for a dog's performance in a dog show, or a sport). They do extensive health testing, and depending on their amount of dogs have only 1-2 litters per year. These breeders are not in it for the money, and often have to work another job to pay the vet bills, food costs, and trial entries for their dogs.

So, Why adopt, and why buy from a reputable breeder? If you just want a family pet, don't mind the future health of the dog, and you don’t mind working through behavioral issues, then adopt if you want to! Adoption has many flaws, as you aren’t sure of the dogs temperament, or health, but if you don’t mind it is a lovely option.

But why would somebody buy a dog from a reputable breeder? They may admire a certain breed for how they look, or the breeds temperament or health. Some people want a specific temperament to be apart of their home. Maybe they need a dog who is proven at their job, to herd their sheep, or to protect their livestock.

Maybe somebody wants a Bulldog, because of their low energy and smushy cute looks! But they don't want one they may develop health issues that are prominent in the breed. This person may want to buy a dog from a reputable breeder because the breeder’s dogs are much healthier than a dog you may find in the shelter. Reputable breeders do health tests on their dogs, and any dogs who don’t come back Good or excellent (hips, elbows, eyes) Or Clear (Genetic health issues) the breeder doesn’t breed these dogs. That means that the breeder only produces & Sells healthy Dogs.

Maybe somebody wants a golden retriever, but all of their past goldens developed arthritis and cancer towards their later years. This person doesn’t want to watch another one of their dogs hurt, so they decide to buy a dog from a reputable breeder. The breeder does health tests on their dogs, and none of the dogs in their new puppies' pedigree is proven to not carry arthritis or cancer.

There are different reasons for why people get their animals from where, but people shouldn’t dislike or hate breeders. Breeders work to protect and conserve the dog breeds we love. They work tirelessly to produce dogs who perform to their breed standard, who are healthy, and can do what their breed was bred to do. Reputable breeders do not contribute to the shelters population, a reputable breeder will always allow a dog back into their home, and most require that if you can no longer care for their dog, they will take it back. There's no reason to not support breeders, even if you prefer rescue dogs.

Agreed-mostly. I think breeders get a bad rap, and that there are many responsible breeders-however (I do realize you speak from experience, just sharing my opinion), my aunt fosters a ton. She has a mix herself, who's now 15 and just starting to lose her eyesight and hearing. None of her fosters, nor her current dog, have any behavior problems at all-I think it partially depends on where the dogs come from, etc. However, there are loads and loads and loads more irresponsible breeders, and many of them look responsible at first glance. People who haven't read and heard a ton about breeders may read something like this post, and misinterpret it to mean that all rescues have behavior and health issues, and all breeders are amazing. There are two sides to every story, and, I'll say it again, I think that for many people adopting is the best option, but there are a couple people (like you) that have a good reason for buying from a-and this is the key word-responsible breeder. Sorry, this goes round in circles and doesn't make much of a point.

 

[RoosterWhisperer]

Yep! this is exactly why not everybody is equipped to own a rescue dog..

they are HARD dogs to own, with so many unknowns

I plan to rescue, train, and rehome dogs in the future. In no means do I hate rescues, but by spreading information that if you don't adopt you are a awful person, your getting more dogs killed, sorry.

when people are pressured into adopting, they may end up with a dog that has serious issues (rescues lie, you know? they lied about my dogs, they said they where dog friendly, then my dog attacked a little dog and almost killed it). Sending dogs home to homes not a equipped for doing extensive training, just causes more issues.

my two cents.

And a nice two cents this is!

 

[RoosterWhisperer]

I have noticed that this is a very sensitive topic. I would appreciate if people would try not to overdo everything, the start of this thread was to raise awareness on that whether dogs need help. Not to argue which is better! Some want pure breeds, some cute mixes. That is ok! Just don't get too hot and offensive, ok?

Be nice! (Both sides!)

I stand with @arwoon, he/she has the right idea!
There is no need to fight, both side have they're own likes and dislikes.
The end.

 

[Vacman]

I know it sounds cruel and there are animals needing adoption, but for my family, it's getting a known breed with a background I am fully aware of from a reputable breeder. You're not wrong if you decide to go with a rescue animal.

 

[arwoon]

Yep! this is exactly why not everybody is equipped to own a rescue dog..

they are HARD dogs to own, with so many unknowns

I plan to rescue, train, and rehome dogs in the future. In no means do I hate rescues, but by spreading information that if you don't adopt you are a awful person, your getting more dogs killed, sorry.

when people are pressured into adopting, they may end up with a dog that has serious issues (rescues lie, you know? they lied about my dogs, they said they where dog friendly, then my dog attacked a little dog and almost killed it). Sending dogs home to homes not a equipped for doing extensive training, just causes more issues.

my two cents.

@ILoveDaffy never said that it is bad never to adopt a shelter dog! Did you?

 

[EverV]

I agree with you, but issues like seperation anxiety, and humping are things people who know what they are doing can easily break with some training.

A old dog, with unknown history COULD have serious seperation anxiety issues, agression issues, resource guarding. These are things most normal dog owners are not able to handle, and its best dog like that is just left in the shelter and not handed off to a unknown person to deal with the dog. That often leads to people being bit, and dogs being put down.

x2, I was just saying that for a puppy, a couple issues would be the same. Yes, I think that especially for first time dog owners, getting a puppy they have spend time with (from a breeder or shelter) is the best decision-a dog with bad training or issues is never the a good choice for anybody except the experts.

 

[arwoon]

x2, I was just saying that for a puppy, a couple issues would be the same. Yes, I think that especially for first time dog owners, getting a puppy they have spend time with (from a breeder or shelter) is the best decision-a dog with bad training or issues is never the a good choice for anybody except the experts.

Good post! I think puppies are best for beginners, from shelters or breeders!