Ladybug99 gave good advice, but some roosters just never learn. I hope it doesn't take Moochie or one of her friends getting a serious infection, or eye injury from this (perfectly normal acting) rooster, to get their attention...
I'm giving up on this whole rooster thing.
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The OP has said she has given up on the roo, and the parents have said the only removal they approve of is to the Buddhist temple. This may not be a perfect choice, but to me it's the obvious one. And it does offer more of a life for him than the stew pot. He may not live long, or he may, but he would lead a normal chicken life, anyway.
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The Handling Rooster Aggression link on my BYC page may be of some interest. It is similar to the steps you have taken. There is also a link on the page that leads to an article about animal-human bonding that leads to human aggression.
The Handling Rooster Aggression link on my BYC page may be of some interest. It is similar to the steps you have taken. There is also a link on the page that leads to an article about animal-human bonding that leads to human aggression.
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I have additional info.
Charlie was not hand raised by us, my mom got him at a ranch (with various animals for sale) and he was a year old when we got him. That was back in October. My mom does admit that we should have gotten a younger cockerell but she felt sorry for Charlie because he was in moult. My mom felt that he was 'ugly' to the other chickens and that he would be shunned or something. That's how we got 3 of our barred rocks, because my mom thought they were 'ugly' to the other chickens and she felt sorry. One was missing quite a bit of feathers and was 'ugly' to us but she got pretty over a couple months.
Our other roosters were hand raised, except for my Melvy-Poo, and they aren't aggressive to people at all. Melvin isn't aggressive either just a flighty one. The 4 younger ones are about 6 - 7 months old and nothing like Charlie.
As for the ranch, I know that they start from brooder, to various sized cages depending on age and sex, or stays in a huge coop like thing for breeding. The ranchers really don't spend time with them. I even asked to look at the other chickens in the breeding coops and the lady kindly replied "We don't wanna disturb them in their natural habitat.". Natural habitat = shavings, roosts, nestboxes, and feeders. I remember when we were looking for a roo (before Charlie) we went into the cochin coop and it was like a normal coop except huge. Kinda warm too.
Anyways I remember that the cochins behaviour was much different from my chickens. When I walk outside they all come running to me either for treats or for me to give them love. The cochins there ran away from them and clucked like mad. They screamed when the lady picked them up. I could see it in their eyes...
If I had a ranch I would have a satisfaction guarentee poster about and I would keep the chickens clean.. Many of the chickens we got from there had bugs.
We don't buy our chickens from them anymore because they had bugs -_-
Charlie was not hand raised by us, my mom got him at a ranch (with various animals for sale) and he was a year old when we got him. That was back in October. My mom does admit that we should have gotten a younger cockerell but she felt sorry for Charlie because he was in moult. My mom felt that he was 'ugly' to the other chickens and that he would be shunned or something. That's how we got 3 of our barred rocks, because my mom thought they were 'ugly' to the other chickens and she felt sorry. One was missing quite a bit of feathers and was 'ugly' to us but she got pretty over a couple months.
Our other roosters were hand raised, except for my Melvy-Poo, and they aren't aggressive to people at all. Melvin isn't aggressive either just a flighty one. The 4 younger ones are about 6 - 7 months old and nothing like Charlie.
As for the ranch, I know that they start from brooder, to various sized cages depending on age and sex, or stays in a huge coop like thing for breeding. The ranchers really don't spend time with them. I even asked to look at the other chickens in the breeding coops and the lady kindly replied "We don't wanna disturb them in their natural habitat.". Natural habitat = shavings, roosts, nestboxes, and feeders. I remember when we were looking for a roo (before Charlie) we went into the cochin coop and it was like a normal coop except huge. Kinda warm too.
Anyways I remember that the cochins behaviour was much different from my chickens. When I walk outside they all come running to me either for treats or for me to give them love. The cochins there ran away from them and clucked like mad. They screamed when the lady picked them up. I could see it in their eyes...
If I had a ranch I would have a satisfaction guarentee poster about and I would keep the chickens clean.. Many of the chickens we got from there had bugs.
We don't buy our chickens from them anymore because they had bugs -_-
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I have to agree. Beating a "bird" isn't ok either. I have Grackles everywhere...they scare the other birds away, eat all the birdfood, make a mess of the place and are generally not a welcomed bird. But I'll tell ya, I'd never beat one to death with a stick..or any other animal for that matter.
I am OK with something like this -- once. A person under stress dealing with a threat the first time -- OK. If this were a pattern or entertainment, then obviously not OK.
If it were me, I would be dissatisfied with this method of dealing with an intruder and seek an alternative. I would consider avian netting or hardware cloth or a scarecrow or a shaker full of pebbles. Whatever might work and were cheap enough that if it failed would permit the next most frugal thing to be tried.
I have to agree. Beating a "bird" isn't ok either. I have Grackles everywhere...they scare the other birds away, eat all the birdfood, make a mess of the place and are generally not a welcomed bird. But I'll tell ya, I'd never beat one to death with a stick..or any other animal for that matter.
I am OK with something like this -- once. A person under stress dealing with a threat the first time -- OK. If this were a pattern or entertainment, then obviously not OK.
If it were me, I would be dissatisfied with this method of dealing with an intruder and seek an alternative. I would consider avian netting or hardware cloth or a scarecrow or a shaker full of pebbles. Whatever might work and were cheap enough that if it failed would permit the next most frugal thing to be tried.
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Ahem, please read the post. I did it with a bird. I didn't say chicken, I said bird. Chickens are birds but I don't call chickens birds I call random feathery fly things in which I don't know the name of birds. If they try to steal/peck/drop eggs I call them pests. If they are stealing chicken feed (which bothers me very much) I watch diligently because Moochie, the hen herself will chase them. It's funny and cute what can I say.
Don't twist ones' words. If you assume that I "beat a chicken to death" don't you suppose you'd ask first? Like I dunno ask "Please correct me if I took this wrong, but did you mean bird as in a chicken or a small bird?". Common sense.
I don't need to read your post again. I read it right the first time. I understood that it was a bird you beat and not a chicken. I still 3rd.
Ahem, please read the post. I did it with a bird. I didn't say chicken, I said bird. Chickens are birds but I don't call chickens birds I call random feathery fly things in which I don't know the name of birds. If they try to steal/peck/drop eggs I call them pests. If they are stealing chicken feed (which bothers me very much) I watch diligently because Moochie, the hen herself will chase them. It's funny and cute what can I say.
Don't twist ones' words. If you assume that I "beat a chicken to death" don't you suppose you'd ask first? Like I dunno ask "Please correct me if I took this wrong, but did you mean bird as in a chicken or a small bird?". Common sense.
I don't need to read your post again. I read it right the first time. I understood that it was a bird you beat and not a chicken. I still 3rd.
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It just seems to me that the parents in this situation need to take the situation in hand. Nothing good can come from letting one's animals and children develop such an adversarial relationship. Moxiechick, you need support and help from your parents, Charlie needs to go.
And I 2nd that.
It just seems to me that the parents in this situation need to take the situation in hand. Nothing good can come from letting one's animals and children develop such an adversarial relationship. Moxiechick, you need support and help from your parents, Charlie needs to go.
And I 2nd that.
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Yea my dad says he's acting normal too. But Charlie isn't the nice guy like the other roosters are. It makes me especially angry when he pecks rough at the pullets for whatever reason. Yesterday I was throwing scratch and when I walked toward Charlie he walked away clucking and was pecking roughly at any pullet near him. I told him to stop and never ever do that to 'my flock'. I know chickens don't speak human.
I've known that Charlie and I are in a way like competing roosters. I don't have a problem with that but I have to see who will win. He also stares at me when I hug the hens or pick them up, he watches every little thing I do with them. He also watches when I pick up Skippy, my silkie roo which I baby alot.
Yea my dad says he's acting normal too. But Charlie isn't the nice guy like the other roosters are. It makes me especially angry when he pecks rough at the pullets for whatever reason. Yesterday I was throwing scratch and when I walked toward Charlie he walked away clucking and was pecking roughly at any pullet near him. I told him to stop and never ever do that to 'my flock'. I know chickens don't speak human.
I've known that Charlie and I are in a way like competing roosters. I don't have a problem with that but I have to see who will win. He also stares at me when I hug the hens or pick them up, he watches every little thing I do with them. He also watches when I pick up Skippy, my silkie roo which I baby alot.
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Ahem, please read the post. I did it with a bird. I didn't say chicken, I said bird. Chickens are birds but I don't call chickens birds I call random feathery fly things in which I don't know the name of birds. If they try to steal/peck/drop eggs I call them pests. If they are stealing chicken feed (which bothers me very much) I watch diligently because Moochie, the hen herself will chase them. It's funny and cute what can I say.
Don't twist ones' words. If you assume that I "beat a chicken to death" don't you suppose you'd ask first? Like I dunno ask "Please correct me if I took this wrong, but did you mean bird as in a chicken or a small bird?". Common sense.
I don't need to read your post again. I read it right the first time. I understood that it was a bird you beat and not a chicken. I still 3rd.
Not to be mean but it seems your coming off a bit rude. I '3rd' that I don't appreciate bad vibes. :3
Ahem, please read the post. I did it with a bird. I didn't say chicken, I said bird. Chickens are birds but I don't call chickens birds I call random feathery fly things in which I don't know the name of birds. If they try to steal/peck/drop eggs I call them pests. If they are stealing chicken feed (which bothers me very much) I watch diligently because Moochie, the hen herself will chase them. It's funny and cute what can I say.
Don't twist ones' words. If you assume that I "beat a chicken to death" don't you suppose you'd ask first? Like I dunno ask "Please correct me if I took this wrong, but did you mean bird as in a chicken or a small bird?". Common sense.
I don't need to read your post again. I read it right the first time. I understood that it was a bird you beat and not a chicken. I still 3rd.
Not to be mean but it seems your coming off a bit rude. I '3rd' that I don't appreciate bad vibes. :3
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