So, here is what I know and what Ive been up to.
This guy comes and goes to Mexico quite often, so its been difficult seeing him at his store.
Yesterday , I asked him if he still had the girls and he said he did.
When asked what he was going to do with them, he said he wasnt sure, but he " would consider " giving them away but he doesnt know when.
I made sure he understood that I WILL take the girls, he "assured " me that I would be the First person he would give them to.
I then asked if he corrected his coop. ( see problems with it , in original post ).
No , he has " Not had the time , nor desire to fix the coop" even though he acknowledges knowing how dangerous Not having ventilation is.
He wants " Nature whether good or bad, to take its course with the coop and girls "
Now, I DID NOT like that statement and let him know it, in between customers coming in and out.
I didnt care who heard me.
Since I have been building Alot of coops by myself, I offered to go take a look and work on it, if he will allow me.
He said that would be fine since he had No idea what was Must in building a coop.
Now, I went over to check out his set up but Most importantly, I wanted to check on the hens' welfare.
OMG, I could smell the coop from the front yard as I was parking on the road in front of his house !!
In a nutshell, his coop is a 4x8 coop on 2x4 legs about 3ft off the ground.
Just a large box..there was a small hole , maybe 4x6 inches, on 1 of the 4ft sections of the coop.
He let the girls out...they are Barred Rocks, (3), and 3 of what I believe are New Hampshire Reds.
They looked too Thin for MY liking.
The Poop was at least 2 inches deep on the floor and their water had been knocked on the floor, and when I did not see
any feed container, he mentioned that he just " throws a few cups of feed onto the floor to give them something to scratch for "
By this time, I had seen and had ENOUGH, and I told him that I wanted those birds , right then and there , to care for them.
( I went over to his house with several carriers I have..just in case...I kind of had a feeling I was going to take the birds.)
Im going back in a few days to load the coop onto my truck, whether he is There or Not..He will know its me, so there wont be any problem with me taking it..
Sooooo , I have the "Foster Chickens" in quarantine for awhile, even though they have a separate section of the yard to run around , scratch for bugs, and just BE CHICKENS..
Im going to change up the coop, since Im between building others.
Im going to plunge cut a 12x14 window on the side that will be having the West sun. It Never gets hot here, so with the windows open, there will be great circulation to keep them cool in the summer, and during our Horrible winters, they will have whatever sun we do get, also.
The windows will be covered with hardware cloth during the summer, and Plexiglass that I already cut and have ready to cover the windows , during the winter.
I just Love using Plexiglass on my coops, when it can be done, as it warm up the coop, yet if the birds need to stay inside, like during blizzards, they can still see outside.
Im going to also cut and frame a pop hole on one of the short sides of the coop, and make a ladder that will lead them right into their 8x18 enclosed yard..
So, thats about it for now..
I took pictures and will post them once I learn how to post pics on the new site.
Thanks for everyone's concern..
The girls will be just fine..
Yesterday, I ran into an acquaintance, who is a " respected businessman ", who got his chickens the same day I did..April 11, 2011.
Everytime I would go to his store, we would have small talk about how each other's chickens were doing during each stage of their lives.
Last year when he first got them, he built them a coop, was so excited about their first egg, etc.
So, when I saw him yesterday, and asked him how his chickens were doing, especially since we are in winter and having alot of snow, cold etc.
His replies are as follows :
" Oh, I guess theyre alright. The novelty and fun has worn off, and Im getting rid of them ASAP. I HATE them..they are so stinky and Im sick of cleaning out their G- - D- - -N coop!
In fact, I got so tired of cleaning out their stinky coop, just to have this one Black chicken that has some reddish hackles, go to her nest box, and take out all her straw, that I GRABBED the STUPID bird BY THE NECK, and threw
her across the coop where she hit the wall and fell to the ground...I thought she was dead, then the dumb thing got back up ...I put more straw in her box, watched her do it again, so I again, grabbed her by the a WING this
time and threw her across the coop , again. "
Now, by this time, Im in shock with what Im hearing, and told him what he was doing " was CRUELTY TO ANIMAL , and that he has NO business having those poor birds " !!!
I then asked him why is his coop so " Stinky" ?
He said " Oh, I dont know ".
I asked him how well is his coop Ventilated?
He said " What's VENTILATION "?
OMG..I couldnt believe what he was telling me.
I explained to him the Importance of ventilation and how even with our extreme cold and snow, they Still need that or they could possible Die , without it and the lack of ventilation is also causing their coop to smell.
He seemed surprised..." Oh wow, my coop is TOTALLY CLOSED UP and Insulated with NO windows "...
He also said.." I wouldnt mind if they all died....Hmmm..that gives me an idea.."
Unfortunately, alot of customers started to come into his store, and the conversation abruptly ended.
I was quite upset and saddened.
I sat in my car trying to figure out just How I could possibly take his chickens off his hands.
So, I came home and decided to divide up my huge 12x20 coop, go see him Today, and ask him if I could Take his birds !
Of course I will Quarantine them first.
Now, I understand that people raise their chickens as meat birds, or do eat their birds etc, and thats fine...but IMHO, if you get chickens OR any animal solely as pets, then you are TOTALLY responsible for their well being
needs, etc. for the life of that animal...
The animal is NOT just a " NOVELTY" that can become ABUSED by the very person that the animal has become dependent on..
ILL keep everyone POSTED, as to whether this Jerk will let me take his chickens off his hands.
Thanks for listening..
I know people on BYC would understand my little rant..lol
to take them into your life, then YOU are
This guy comes and goes to Mexico quite often, so its been difficult seeing him at his store.
Yesterday , I asked him if he still had the girls and he said he did.
When asked what he was going to do with them, he said he wasnt sure, but he " would consider " giving them away but he doesnt know when.
I made sure he understood that I WILL take the girls, he "assured " me that I would be the First person he would give them to.
I then asked if he corrected his coop. ( see problems with it , in original post ).
No , he has " Not had the time , nor desire to fix the coop" even though he acknowledges knowing how dangerous Not having ventilation is.
He wants " Nature whether good or bad, to take its course with the coop and girls "
Now, I DID NOT like that statement and let him know it, in between customers coming in and out.
I didnt care who heard me.
Since I have been building Alot of coops by myself, I offered to go take a look and work on it, if he will allow me.
He said that would be fine since he had No idea what was Must in building a coop.
Now, I went over to check out his set up but Most importantly, I wanted to check on the hens' welfare.
OMG, I could smell the coop from the front yard as I was parking on the road in front of his house !!
In a nutshell, his coop is a 4x8 coop on 2x4 legs about 3ft off the ground.
Just a large box..there was a small hole , maybe 4x6 inches, on 1 of the 4ft sections of the coop.
He let the girls out...they are Barred Rocks, (3), and 3 of what I believe are New Hampshire Reds.
They looked too Thin for MY liking.
The Poop was at least 2 inches deep on the floor and their water had been knocked on the floor, and when I did not see
any feed container, he mentioned that he just " throws a few cups of feed onto the floor to give them something to scratch for "
By this time, I had seen and had ENOUGH, and I told him that I wanted those birds , right then and there , to care for them.
( I went over to his house with several carriers I have..just in case...I kind of had a feeling I was going to take the birds.)
Im going back in a few days to load the coop onto my truck, whether he is There or Not..He will know its me, so there wont be any problem with me taking it..
Sooooo , I have the "Foster Chickens" in quarantine for awhile, even though they have a separate section of the yard to run around , scratch for bugs, and just BE CHICKENS..
Im going to change up the coop, since Im between building others.
Im going to plunge cut a 12x14 window on the side that will be having the West sun. It Never gets hot here, so with the windows open, there will be great circulation to keep them cool in the summer, and during our Horrible winters, they will have whatever sun we do get, also.
The windows will be covered with hardware cloth during the summer, and Plexiglass that I already cut and have ready to cover the windows , during the winter.
I just Love using Plexiglass on my coops, when it can be done, as it warm up the coop, yet if the birds need to stay inside, like during blizzards, they can still see outside.
Im going to also cut and frame a pop hole on one of the short sides of the coop, and make a ladder that will lead them right into their 8x18 enclosed yard..
So, thats about it for now..
I took pictures and will post them once I learn how to post pics on the new site.
Thanks for everyone's concern..
The girls will be just fine..
Yesterday, I ran into an acquaintance, who is a " respected businessman ", who got his chickens the same day I did..April 11, 2011.
Everytime I would go to his store, we would have small talk about how each other's chickens were doing during each stage of their lives.
Last year when he first got them, he built them a coop, was so excited about their first egg, etc.
So, when I saw him yesterday, and asked him how his chickens were doing, especially since we are in winter and having alot of snow, cold etc.
His replies are as follows :
" Oh, I guess theyre alright. The novelty and fun has worn off, and Im getting rid of them ASAP. I HATE them..they are so stinky and Im sick of cleaning out their G- - D- - -N coop!
In fact, I got so tired of cleaning out their stinky coop, just to have this one Black chicken that has some reddish hackles, go to her nest box, and take out all her straw, that I GRABBED the STUPID bird BY THE NECK, and threw
her across the coop where she hit the wall and fell to the ground...I thought she was dead, then the dumb thing got back up ...I put more straw in her box, watched her do it again, so I again, grabbed her by the a WING this
time and threw her across the coop , again. "
Now, by this time, Im in shock with what Im hearing, and told him what he was doing " was CRUELTY TO ANIMAL , and that he has NO business having those poor birds " !!!
I then asked him why is his coop so " Stinky" ?
He said " Oh, I dont know ".
I asked him how well is his coop Ventilated?
He said " What's VENTILATION "?
OMG..I couldnt believe what he was telling me.
I explained to him the Importance of ventilation and how even with our extreme cold and snow, they Still need that or they could possible Die , without it and the lack of ventilation is also causing their coop to smell.
He seemed surprised..." Oh wow, my coop is TOTALLY CLOSED UP and Insulated with NO windows "...
He also said.." I wouldnt mind if they all died....Hmmm..that gives me an idea.."
Unfortunately, alot of customers started to come into his store, and the conversation abruptly ended.
I was quite upset and saddened.
I sat in my car trying to figure out just How I could possibly take his chickens off his hands.
So, I came home and decided to divide up my huge 12x20 coop, go see him Today, and ask him if I could Take his birds !
Of course I will Quarantine them first.
Now, I understand that people raise their chickens as meat birds, or do eat their birds etc, and thats fine...but IMHO, if you get chickens OR any animal solely as pets, then you are TOTALLY responsible for their well being
needs, etc. for the life of that animal...
The animal is NOT just a " NOVELTY" that can become ABUSED by the very person that the animal has become dependent on..
ILL keep everyone POSTED, as to whether this Jerk will let me take his chickens off his hands.
Thanks for listening..
I know people on BYC would understand my little rant..lol
to take them into your life, then YOU are
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