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[chicken hawk 33]

Hey all

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Turkey starter has more niacin than chick starter.

-Kathy

 

[ChickenCanoe]

CC you are right about the US Canada and Europe, but what will do countries that are based on live stock as primary food source?
Mongolia? Kazakhstan? Tajikistan? All the country of the Arabian peninsula? I can count also Argentina and Uruguay, all of this pepole will HAVE to grow plants, or let someone else to grow for them.

That could cause problems because the cultures are used to the animal protein.

I don't want to buy 20 bags of feed. Is there something I can feed them both, that will work for the turkeys, too?

No. The different species need different protein and vitamin mixes.
If I was you, I'd get a 28% protein feed. Feed full strength for the turkeys, and mix with chick starter for the ducks.
Mixing 6 parts starter with 4 parts game bird feed will give you 22% for the ducks.
You can also add grain to the diet to cut protein for those that don't need it.
You can add brewer's yeast to provide the extra niacin for the ducks.

I'm trying to figure out, if I get a poult feed, if I can feed it to the ducks. I know ducks need extra niacin, if I gave a chick feed, so what's the difference if I use a turkey feed???

Big difference between chick feed and game bird feed and I don't think either have the extra niacin.
It's primarily about the protein percentage.
If you don't want to mess with it, just feed chick starter but don't expect good results with your birds.

If I put both feed in there, will they eat the right food? I don't have a brooder setup to split the poults up from the ducks.

No they won't pick the right food.

You don't need anything elaborate. A large moving box from Lowe's is $1.28. You can put the ducks in that and put the poults in the brooder.
If you need more space, get more boxes and cut holes between them.

also if oyu put the niacin in the water, will that hurt the baby chicks if they drink the same water?

Probably won't hurt to have more vitamin B.

I was told this morning if I build the runs any bigger my lady said she would leave, gonna miss her

Oh well!

 

[kwhites634]

Quote: I tried several times to "swing up" into a saddle (before I knew how dangerous western saddles are), but I never made it. Too bottom heavy, I guess. Even tried swinging my right leg backward before swinging it forward, for more momentum. All I ever accomplished was kicking the poor horse in the flanks.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Nope, they'll eat the one they like better.

-Kathy

 

[DwayneNLiz]

Turkey starter has more niacin than chick starter.

-Kathy

but would the extra protein be bad for the chicks, and ducks? would this cause the ducks to get angel wing?
i think i would have 3 brooder boxes lol

 

[casportpony]

Quote: I would not recommend this. Many thousands of dollars have been invested by feed companies in figuring out the correct nutritional requirement for poultry, so best to stick with something made for that species.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Quote: That and there are other things, like proper ratios of calcium, phosphorus, D, E, selenium, etc.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Mine all get 27% turkey and they are fine.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Quote: I know that people say that, but I have raised several hundred ducks on turkey starter and haven't had any issues with angel wing.

-Kathy