INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

[Akrnaf2]

This is a translation of a post that I have written in a forum in Israel that I am one of its admins. I hope it will help thous that cano't see the development of the air cell in a very dark shell eggs:
Anyone who incubate eggs know that one of the most important parameters except the incubation temperature, is the humidity.
The accepted convention says that incubation eggs (in the first 19 days) should have humidity of 50% and during the hatching (days 19-21) humidity should move around the 75%.
I would like to say that such determinations are not absolute!
We must remember that moisture is the only means of bringing the egg weight loss necessary for the development of air cell. Chicken eggs have to lose 11-13 percent of their weight from day 1 to day 19 of incubation. This is the percentage that allows the creation of proper air cell and normal development! If the egg does not lose weight at the appropriate rate that the an air sack will develop properly, mean that the incubator humidity is too high and we need to reduce it! And if it losses weight that is higher than 11-13 percent and the air cell is greater than that needed, means that the humidity in an incubator is lower that what is needed, and we should raise it! The correct way to determine the correct incubation humidity present is to calculate the future weight loss of of the egg.
And the way to calculate this is:
You should weight the egg before entering it to the incubation. After the first 4 days ,in the first candling you weight it again. The gap weight (starting weight less weight on the fourth day), you divide the initial weight of the egg, the result should be multiplied by 100, that is the percentage of weight lost, percentage, for four days. Daily weight loss percentages can be known by dividing the result by 4.
To know the expected rate of weight loss of the entire incubation period you should multiplied the percentage of daily weight loss by 19. and this is the expected weight loss over the incubation. If it is between 11-13 percent humidity you are good, If it do not, you should correct the humidity levels!


for example:
If the initial egg weight is 56 grams
And after 4 days is 54.8 grams.

So: the ratio of weight lost in 4 days is:
0.0214 = (56 - 54.8):56
Multiple the result by 100
And This Is considered the weight loss percentages for 4 days:
0.0214 * 100 = 2.14%

2.14% are weight loss in 4 days. So to know the daily weight loss percentages is:
2.14% : 4 = 0.54%

Calculate the percentage of weight loss per incubation period (first 19 days):
0.54% * 19 = 10.3%

This humidity Value of 10.3% is lower than the minimum of 11% percent required, it means that probably that humidity in the incubator was higher than necessary and you have to reduce it!
Good luck

When weighing for proper air sac growth, how often should you be weighing them? Are days 7, 10, 18 enough?

I would start earlier, day 4-5, to get an indication ASAP to have a big time margin to correct if needed!

 

[kwhites634]

I get a kick out of folks around here that say when things get bad they are just going to live off the land. It's so sad it's funny Where do they think their next meal is coming from if not for the farmers. It ain't

Most of those people would starve w/o the knowlege. MD's trying it's dardest to pave the entire state. When the old guys decide to retire from farming the ever-dwidling farms, their kids don't want to stay on the farm; they rather go down the road 50 miles & make the big bucks, selling the farms to developers. It's scary. I'm glad I won't be around to see the end result.

 

[rossfam06]

Talk about mad.....today is day 4 and still no update on my AC eggs!!!!!!

 

[Pensmaster]

Most of those people would starve w/o the knowlege. MD's trying it's dardest to pave the entire state. When the old guys decide to retire from farming the ever-dwidling farms, their kids don't want to stay on the farm; they rather go down the road 50 miles & make the big bucks, selling the farms to developers. It's scary. I'm glad I won't be around to see the end result.

It's scary actually. Once it's gone.....
I actually tried to "live off the land" here at my place. Only to see if could make it for a week. It took months of planning, let's just say I would not be writing to you right now if I had to rely on me. I'd be dead. At least from the raise it yourself aspect.

 

[kwhites634]

Talk about mad.....today is day 4 and still no update on my AC eggs!!!!!!

So sorry

It just occurred to me; how's your part-time gig at the bridal shop going? Haven't seen any mention of it recently...maybe I missed it.

 

[kwhites634]

It's scary actually. Once it's gone.....
I actually tried to "live off the land" here at my place. Only to see if could make it for a week. It took months of planning, let's just say I would not be writing to you right now if I had to rely on me. I'd be dead. At least from the raise it yourself aspect.

I'm sitting on 3+ acres here. I could grow enough veggies & a steer every year to survive if I had to, but it sure wouldn't be a bowl of cherries, for sure. I hate the thought of having to try it.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: your very welcome!

Happy Birthday Baby chicken lovin girl!!! You are as beautiful as your mom!!!

thank you!

Quote:

Quote: I get 16% pellets for $13. a 100lb bag

well my data ran out on my phone so I have been gone for way too long. I am at my dads cleaning so I get to use his computer! just and update, the chick that hatched did not make it through the night, and I have not had another internal pip. I am on day 23 so I am not holding out much hope.

I am sorry

Sally!!! I need more info on that wonderfulf crested BPR!!

תודה לך בני, אני יהיה הודעתך

Talk about mad.....today is day 4 and still no update on my AC eggs!!!!!!

oh nos!!!!!!!

 

[casportpony]

Hello and Welcome to BYC! There is a great article on hatching them... Hopefully someone will post a link. I have a batch in my RCOM 20, which works perfectly for chicken eggs. About half way through on 11 Muscovy eggs, so check back in a two weeks and I'll give you an update.


-Kathy

[COLOR=333333]Thank you so much for your reply. Best of luck on hatching your babies. I'm anxious to hear how it goes so, please keep me updated. My Muscovy is sitting on her eggs of at least 12. I just want the incubator incase anything crazy happens. Last time she didn't stay on the nest & they didn't make it. :'([/COLOR]

How many days has she been sitting?

-Kathy

 

[lazy gardener]

Is that in California

You might consider doing what I did. I have one of those large green garbage cans, with the wheels & hinged lid that snaps shut. They'll hold 150 lb easily; maybe 200 lb. You could get enough of those cans to hold 20 bags ( probably 6) with no concern about coons or rodents. Before I moved the coop, I stored mine in the barn, with a rubber cargo strap securing the lid as added security against coons, and never had a problem. Obviously, you'd have a decent cash outlay for the cans, but you'd make it back with the reduced price of the feed. Just my 1.5 cents worth (inflation, you know).

KW: Any issues with rats chewing through plastic???

Jeff Mattocks (a poultry feed expert) states, "Feeds are at the optimum levels for up to 14 days, and are satisfactory up to 45 days after grinding or milling. After 45 days, the feed is generally so stale or oxidized that poultry appetite will be severely depressed. Oxidation starts immediately after the grinding or cracking of the grain."

I use big plastic stackable bins that rodents haven't figured out how to get into. But I try not to feed anything older than 3 months from manufactures.

It's definitely a worth while thing to keep that feed investment in a water proof and rodent proof storage container. I'd also add, keeping it cool is a good thing also! Not a problem for me this winter!

Sally, you pay 1/2 of what I pay for feed. It's discouraging, that in this corner of the country, so very many things are more expensive, tax rate is among the highest, pay scale depressed. Ok. I'm done ranting now.

 

[BantyChooks]

Do you have links to a source that explains this?

-Kathy

Here's one.... Personally, the reason I don't use it is because of the fact it is a Carcinogen and I do not want that near me or my food. Yes, sometimes you gotta break out the big guns, and it does come down to personal choice but I certainly woul not recommend it.

http://www.selfsufficientme.com/pou...ickens-or-other-poultry?showall=1&limitstart=


https://foodtruthfreedom.wordpress.com/2012/02/11/sevin-dust-is-not-your-garden-friend/

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/49035/what-is-sevin-dust/10


Let me know if you want more, I need to go though!